9mm platform.
M&P Shield for extreme concealment and XMD for EDC.
IWB at 4 O'Clock; side OWB for training/range/open carry.

Thanks Paul.
I looked at them in the past. I like the weighted bottom piece for "getting it out of the way".
Did you ever look to getting something that would match your regular uniform and getting it embroidered with company name/logo?

Sorry; you are not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours.

Can I please ask that if you don't carry and have no input to my original question, to please stay out of this conversation and start your own.

I'm not anti gun (it's just a tool), but I don't think that it is a good idea that tons of people are running around with concealed weapons. It's just a matter of time until someone, itching to use this tool, shoots first. Instead of a yelling match between jerk hotheads, we have a shooting match.

One evening an unsavory looking character was in the store, reached up to fondle some of the equipment (this always annoys me), and his .38 clunked to the floor. He shrugged it off claiming that he was a deputy sheriff in another county (flashed a badge), but I was not impressed. There are holster straps that could prevent this sort of accident, but they will tend to slow down the quick draw. I didn't think that my store was such a dangerous spot that he needed to be able to quick draw on me.

There were guns in the house when I grew up. I knew where they were kept, how to operate them, and where the shells were (separately) kept, but they did not fascinate me. As an adult I don't own any guns because I don't have any need for that tool.

I would not normally put my 2 cents into these conversations as they never really amount to anything helpful....everyone has their opinions and they are rarely changed by someone else's.

There 2 approaches to carrying a firearm. Concealed is exactly that. No one needs to or should know you are carrying until such a time that you need to unconceal it and use it for its intended purpose (i.e., killing a bad guy). Under none other circumstance should ANYONE need to know you are carrying, except if you get pulled over by a police officer. So I can see the point of the OP question....trying to keep a concealed weapon concealed. I feel it is an inherent obligation to CCW permit holders who subscribe to this approach.

The second approach is open carry where you want everyone to know you are armed. In this approach, I feel that you should respect the wishes of those for whom you work for. If someone asks you to not carry in their home, do not carry in their home. If your employer asks you not to carry at work, do not carry at work....or find a new employer. If your cousin does not like to carry at her house for the family BBQ, you can get into a fist fight over it and take her on the Dr. Phil show to hash it out. :)

Well stated.
That's exactly my approach.
Years ago, I used to open carry and I PERSONALLY felt that it was getting attention I didn't want. I'm not trying to be a Rambo.
I rather be like air marshal. Trained, proficient, equipped and invisible -- hopefully never needed.

The problem with this theory is that concealed carry permits rapidly gained popularity and more states started issuing them about 25 years ago. Since then the number of permits issued in the US has reached around 14.5 million and the streets still aren't flowing with blood.

I used to have something similar to this.

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During the summer, it might be a bit warm. I'm not big on under shirts. But in the winter it wasnt bad at all. For a Shield, it's perfect. it will work with the XDM too. The nice part is it works with about any shirt you want to wear.

This topic just reminded me of something.

I've got a friend that's a plumber. Years ago he did plumbing work for an Italian family that moved to the area. Their "connections" were no secret. One day my friend was there working on a water heater. One of the sons was hanging around while my friend was working, and waiving around his pistol and talking about how great the 9mm is. My friend finally fed up, reached under his shirt, drew his own pistol and went, "a 9 is ok, but I prefer a 10mm. It's got more punch". Conversation was over.

I do not carry into peoples homes, but i can see the reason being made if you are in the big city and moving items to the home or business from the van.
if that were the case, it would be in the inside of my VETO computer bag. No one has any business in my bag. Nothing is seen on me.

What holsters (either iwb or owb) do you guys like?

Issue with that is that you might be separated from the bag in the time of need.
If it's not with you, it might as well not exist (or be in the safe at home).
Also, we get into the space of kids, coworker and others borrowing tools coming across it.
When it's on my person, I'm in control.

It's similar to woman's purses. Instructors will tell you that it's almost worst to have a gun in a purse than not having it at all because it's relatively easy to rip a purse out of woman's grip and then robber also has a weapon he can use against her.

It's naive to think that a problem can't happen in an area where the homes sell for $1M and more, just because the homes are expensive- criminals travel and some (too many) don't care who they screw with. This conversation hasn't come up with my clients, but in the area where I have worked for several of them, some stupid crap is happening in spite of the alderman's comment that "I think we have a pretty good handle on what's going on". He's dead wrong and is too stupid to know that.

Many of my clients hunt, so guns aren't a taboo topic- one even has a framed Uzi with "In case of emergency, break glass" on the mounting board, on the wall of the staircase in the main hallway. I asked if it was functional and he said "I would hope so".

If I feel unsafe just by being in an area, I won't go there. Period. Life is too short to deal with that crap. I have gone to areas like that, but I don't make it a habit. Fortunately, there's really not a lot of interracial violence in the Milwaukee area, so I don't worry about being a victim in most areas of the city, but when criminals go after people they think will be more compliant, being a bit of a Clydesdale is a good thing.

If I have someone working at my house, I wouldn't be too pleased to find that they're carrying, but mainly because I don't know them or their level of training. The guy waving the 9mm around is a good example- too many gun owners are still in the "How do you like my big, potent wiener?" mode.

No, I never did, But I can't see why it would be an issue. When I did have clothes embroidered, I used this small local shop close to me that I could get a half dozen or so done at a time.  It cost more, but they accommodated me.

I use a local shop as well but they have always supplied shirts and sweaters.
It was stupid cheap. Something like $14 per polo shirt and $20ish for sweater. Embroidery was like 3 or 4 bucks.
I'll ask them if they have something that fits the bill, if not, I'll source it and have them slap my logo on it.