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Post 1 made on Sunday September 3, 2017 at 20:23
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I have a customer with a pretty remote location that wants to be able to stream music/video. There is one section of the house that gets excellent 4g lte signal. Is there a way to hook that into a home network? They don't care for the only isp availible. I have explained the cellular companies throttling of service on their " unlimited" plans and they still would like to try it.
I've never been down this rabbit hole and was hoping for some suggestions
One thing I have learned in this industry. It is easier to pull a wire than it is to push one.
Post 2 made on Sunday September 3, 2017 at 20:47
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Here's a device from VZW.
[Link: verizonwireless.com]

And another from AT&T.
[Link: att.com]

As you can see, the VZW has ethernet ports. Not so sure about the AT&T though.

KOT
Post 3 made on Sunday September 3, 2017 at 20:55
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Overall, I don't think that this is a viable approach, but many phones allow "tethering". In this configuration the phone becomes a WiFi access point, sharing the 4G connection with nearby WiFi clients. I had to change tiers with my carrier before tethering could be enabled.

I agree that they'll quickly bump into the throttle limit.

Would Satellite be a viable option?
OP | Post 4 made on Sunday September 3, 2017 at 22:43
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They have wild blue isp the catch is they get 40 gb a month then charged per gig. They want a network based on the cellular unlimited service that the kids cab use so they aren't using the main network. At this point they are paying 5-600 per month to wild blue and at least want to try this other option
One thing I have learned in this industry. It is easier to pull a wire than it is to push one.
Post 5 made on Monday September 4, 2017 at 00:29
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On September 3, 2017 at 20:55, buzz said...

Would Satellite be a viable option?

Satellite is NEVER a viable option. EVER. PERIOD. We refuse to work with it.
Post 6 made on Monday September 4, 2017 at 04:27
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The cellular is going to give you the same problems. Just like satellite, you only have so many GB per month before you get throttled. And the throttled speed is not enough to stream anything more than music.

There is simply nothing they can do. If they use a lot of bandwidth in a remote area, then they are going to have to pay the piper. It is as simple as that. So $600 a month it is.

Just a note; Verizon had a home plan at one time that allowed up to 100GB per month before getting throttled. Seem to recall (many years ago) it was close to $600-$700 a month. But that is a lot more data than you will get from satellite before getting throttled and you don't have the annoying latency (1000ms+).
Post 7 made on Monday September 4, 2017 at 05:35
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40GB/mo is stingy for the current Internet environment.

Depending on the customer and your own tolerance for technology, enterprise grade networking can incorporate multiple Internet feeds and you can throttle bandwidth to each of the home's "clients". An option might be the Access Networks approach (they'll work through A/V installers). The multiple feeds could be a combination of multiple Wildblue accounts and 4G. You'd need to cost things out over a multi-year, total cash outlay basis (including hardware purchase, monthly traffic and equipment fees, and your management fees).

If you need to improve 4G coverage on the property, amplifiers are available.

"Management" for multiple feeds could be as simple as mechanically swapping cables throughout the month as each feed reaches its threshold. I'm not suggesting that this is a viable approach in all situations, but the technique is available (and relatively low cost) for motivated customers.

With respect to the 4G account(s), keep in mind that the usage threshold will include both on and offsite use. If everyone is watching movies on the road, there may not be any bandwidth left over for home use. I know that 4G carriers are pushing "unlimited", but there is "fine print". Make sure that the fine print makes sense in this environment.

Nasty fact of life: 4G and Satellite have limited capacity compared to cable and fiber. Providers must manage (limit) traffic, somehow, or the system will collapse under the ever expanding load. Cost per GB and/or throttling are management techniques.
OP | Post 8 made on Monday September 4, 2017 at 06:40
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Worst part of the whole scenario is there is cable available 1/4 mile away but TW wants 20k to hook them up
One thing I have learned in this industry. It is easier to pull a wire than it is to push one.
Post 9 made on Monday September 4, 2017 at 08:26
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Cradle Point...

They have different options, you can use their phone as a "wan" with them. The option is called wifi as wan. It works really wel!
The Bitterness of Poor Quality is Remembered Long after the Sweetness of Price is Forgotten! - Benjamin Franklin
Post 10 made on Monday September 4, 2017 at 09:39
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On September 4, 2017 at 06:40, rbhfan said...
Worst part of the whole scenario is there is cable available 1/4 mile away but TW wants 20k to hook them up

There are wireless solutions available from UNIFI i.e , airmax / airprism that is utilizing Point to Point or Point to multipoint wireless transmission. It is actually relatively inexpensive , really fast and simple to set up.
So if your client has a friendly neighbor that has cable service .......
Post 11 made on Monday September 4, 2017 at 11:49
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My handle is Tweety but I have nothing to do with the organization of similar name. I just had a really big head as a child so folks called me tweety bird.
Post 12 made on Monday September 4, 2017 at 15:43
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But the Verizon plan charges $10/GB over 40GB/mo. Is this an improvement over Wild Blue?
Post 13 made on Tuesday September 5, 2017 at 00:37
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On September 4, 2017 at 09:39, adamav said...
There are wireless solutions available from UNIFI i.e , airmax / airprism that is utilizing Point to Point or Point to multipoint wireless transmission. It is actually relatively inexpensive , really fast and simple to set up.
So if your client has a friendly neighbor that has cable service .......

That's what I was going to suggest as well.
I had a client that paid neighbor's internet just so he could use it due to similar circumstances.


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