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| Topic: | Current State of video doorbell and automation integration? This thread has 52 replies. Displaying posts 31 through 45. |
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| OP | Post 31 made on Thursday June 22, 2017 at 21:45 |
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I have my rotary hammer, Jackhammer attachment and mortar ready for this guy! :P
Looking forward to trying it out. My house didnt have a doorbell so I installed one and ran cat6 to my panel from that location. Will just have to jackhammer out for the single gang box and hope I dont hit the wire!
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| Post 32 made on Thursday June 22, 2017 at 21:53 |
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On June 22, 2017 at 21:45, 3PedalMINI said...
I have my rotary hammer, Jackhammer attachment and mortar ready for this guy! :P
Looking forward to trying it out. My house didnt have a doorbell so I installed one and ran cat6 to my panel from that location. Will just have to jackhammer out for the single gang box and hope I dont hit the wire! I used an Oscillating Saw to cut my stucco.. Twas NOT fun at all.. I still had to pack some areas cause it chipped but man that saw cut through the chicken wire so nicely :D
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| Post 33 made on Thursday June 22, 2017 at 23:42 |
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On June 22, 2017 at 20:05, cshepard said...
Where do things stand with the Clare Controls piece? Still testing. Right now it's connected to the office wifi. I haven't been at the office lately though.
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| Post 34 made on Friday June 23, 2017 at 13:50 |
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The bit about cutting the stucco points out that a lot, if not most, "doorbell" installations start as a small push button, not a j-box. Metal gates, for instance, are much more amenable to surface mount devices.
Will there be a surface mount version? Will this fit into a standard single gang surface mount outdoor box? I have a client who has a Doorbird and we're both waiting for something that works better.
Thanks.
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| OP | Post 35 made on Friday June 23, 2017 at 14:27 |
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On June 23, 2017 at 13:50, Ernie Gilman said...
The bit about cutting the stucco points out that a lot, if not most, "doorbell" installations start as a small push button, not a j-box. Metal gates, for instance, are much more amenable to surface mount devices.
Will there be a surface mount version? Will this fit into a standard single gang surface mount outdoor box? I have a client who has a Doorbird and we're both waiting for something that works better.
Thanks. Original ring and ring pro are surface mount
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| Post 36 made on Friday June 23, 2017 at 16:09 |
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On June 23, 2017 at 13:50, Ernie Gilman said...
The bit about cutting the stucco points out that a lot, if not most, "doorbell" installations start as a small push button, not a j-box. Metal gates, for instance, are much more amenable to surface mount devices.
Will there be a surface mount version? Will this fit into a standard single gang surface mount outdoor box? I have a client who has a Doorbird and we're both waiting for something that works better.
Thanks. The elite is a standard 1 gang. It's not really meant for retro in most cases.. tons of new homes have a 1 gang ring put in at home building. As mentioned the other products are all surface mount
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| Post 37 made on Friday June 23, 2017 at 18:16 |
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We still do the Doorbell Fon for resi jobs. [Link: homephone.com]
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| Post 38 made on Monday June 26, 2017 at 10:59 |
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On June 22, 2017 at 16:28, BlackWire Designs said...
It comes with face plates. Its not metal bronze but a nice flat brown.
We currently support Events IE ring and motion on C4 but bringing it to other platforms very soon as well. URC?
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| Post 39 made on Friday June 30, 2017 at 20:53 |
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I've been pretty happy with the Ring Pro and have a few jobs roughed in for the Elite. BW's C4 driver works well and the trigger happens almost immediately. I just wish Ring offered a way to release a strike through the app. The floodlight cams make for a super easy add-on if they have existing motion lights. Looks like the Elite is available on the Ring site now. Hopefully they'll make it to distribution soon! I got an email that 2N finally released the smaller, 1 module high, version of the Helios. Looks much better suited to residential. Hopefully they offer it in black, like the full size unit. [Link: 2nusa.com]®+Helios+IP+Solo
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| Post 40 made on Saturday July 1, 2017 at 03:57 |
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How are you all using the ring pro? What I mean if the customer has his cellphone or tablet in another room or they run out of battery - how can he hear the doorbell? Even if the ring pro has a relay and trigger an internal generic doorbell you still need to find your tablet/phone and switch to the app to view who is at the door. Also can the ring pro open the door (i.e is there a relay?)
I have always been used to video doorbells/intercoms that require a few indoor units (mainly cheap touchscreens) where the indoor units are always available "on the wall" and allow you very easily to view who is at the door and also open the door.
So how can the ring pro substitute this?
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| Post 41 made on Saturday July 1, 2017 at 07:58 |
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Doorbird has worked swimmingly for us. Video intercom to touch screens works well. App works great. Cinegration driver works great.
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| Post 42 made on Saturday July 1, 2017 at 13:59 |
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On June 26, 2017 at 10:59, imt said...
URC? everyone yes.
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| Post 43 made on Saturday July 1, 2017 at 14:00 |
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On June 30, 2017 at 20:53, hdsystems said...
I've been pretty happy with the Ring Pro and have a few jobs roughed in for the Elite. BW's C4 driver works well and the trigger happens almost immediately. I just wish Ring offered a way to release a strike through the app. The floodlight cams make for a super easy add-on if they have existing motion lights. Looks like the Elite is available on the Ring site now. Hopefully they'll make it to distribution soon! I got an email that 2N finally released the smaller, 1 module high, version of the Helios. Looks much better suited to residential. Hopefully they offer it in black, like the full size unit. [Link: 2nusa.com]®+Helios+IP+Solo Elites will be shipping next week. I have a ton on order. Just finally got floods in and Ring 2s in. Our new driver triggers instantly. We are hoping to get approval to push it out on monday.
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| Post 44 made on Saturday July 1, 2017 at 14:01 |
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On July 1, 2017 at 03:57, charris said...
How are you all using the ring pro? What I mean if the customer has his cellphone or tablet in another room or they run out of battery - how can he hear the doorbell? Even if the ring pro has a relay and trigger an internal generic doorbell you still need to find your tablet/phone and switch to the app to view who is at the door. Also can the ring pro open the door (i.e is there a relay?)
I have always been used to video doorbells/intercoms that require a few indoor units (mainly cheap touchscreens) where the indoor units are always available "on the wall" and allow you very easily to view who is at the door and also open the door.
So how can the ring pro substitute this? The Ring doorbells can still ring the old doorbell chime and you can also add wifi chimes from Ring as well. The only relay is for the chime. There is no door trigger relay. Also this is a HUGE HUGE HUGE security risk. I dont know what everyone is obsessed with this. If i can break open your door station and touch 2 wires together and unlock a door that is not great security. If you want cheap tablets then get the Nuvo android poe touch screen and install the ring app on all of them.
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| Post 45 made on Monday November 27, 2017 at 13:32 |
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FYI, the Clare Video Doorbell has been working well for us and we have around 10 in the field right now. And we no complaints from clients. It uses the Clarevision Plus app and no router settings need to be done.
They connect via 2.4 ghz wifi and use the existing doorbell power wire. So it's a great retro fit device.
The box comes with decent instructions and a resistor in case it's needed for some doorbells. It also comes with 4 different colored covers.
I am haven't installed the Ring before so, I can't compare the 2
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