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20ft USB extension on Samsung 75"
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Post 1 made on Sunday May 28, 2017 at 15:34
Craig Aguiar-Winter
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I'm mounting a UN75MU6300 in a location which will only be accessible by a 10ft step ladder.

The TV will have a sound bar connected via optical and all three HDMI inputs are spoken for: Cable Box, Nintendo Switch, and Android Box.

Source components will be located on the floor above the TV, as the crow flies maybe 10ft, but a cable run of 20ft away.

Conponents will be controlled via an IR repeater.

I want to give the client the option to use a USB on the TV. I've never used a USB extension and I'm wondering if this is bound to cause problems? I havnt seen the android box but it may have a USB input which is another option.

Looking for feedback from those who have used USB extensions on TV USB inputs.

Thanks.

Craig

Edit. Multiple runs of Cat6 will be run so these are available if a balun is the best practice.
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Post 2 made on Sunday May 28, 2017 at 16:15
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On May 28, 2017 at 15:34, Craig Aguiar-Winter said...
Source components will be located on the floor above the TV,

WTF????
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Post 3 made on Sunday May 28, 2017 at 16:31
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I have no direct experience with this and the Samsung site is not very helpful.

Where, exactly is the USB port. This model is not listed on the Samsung site, but other models in this series use an external "box" for connections. Is the USB port on the "box" or on the display? Where will the customer want to connect with the USB port. I would think that the customer will want the USB connection to be in the same room as the display.
OP | Post 4 made on Sunday May 28, 2017 at 17:24
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On May 28, 2017 at 16:15, kgossen said...
WTF????

Maybe that didn't read the way I wanted it to.
In a closet on the second floor, below which is the main floor, where the TV is mounted. Beyond that, WTF indeed.
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OP | Post 5 made on Sunday May 28, 2017 at 17:33
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On May 28, 2017 at 16:31, buzz said...
I have no direct experience with this and the Samsung site is not very helpful.

Where, exactly is the USB port. This model is not listed on the Samsung site, but other models in this series use an external "box" for connections. Is the USB port on the "box" or on the display? Where will the customer want to connect with the USB port. I would think that the customer will want the USB connection to be in the same room as the display.

Agreed. Samsung's website is not helpful. For what it's worth here is a link to the TV on BB site.

[Link: m.bestbuy.ca]

It's not very helpfull either.

The TV will be mounted in such a way that the customer will not be able to access the connections on the TV, whether it's on a box or the TV itself. So if the customer wants to connect to it, it will need to be done VIA the extension in question, or through another source that has a USB input.

Craig
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Post 6 made on Sunday May 28, 2017 at 21:48
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Here's a 97 second video for a 10 meter extension USB cable.



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Post 7 made on Sunday May 28, 2017 at 22:48
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I've used 2 meter extensions to a nice Kramer USB jack that works fine. Not sure why 20' should cause issues.
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Post 8 made on Monday May 29, 2017 at 01:22
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If you gave BD on the floor level you could use that. No separate USB cable/connection/ source input on remote required.
Post 9 made on Monday May 29, 2017 at 02:29
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On May 28, 2017 at 22:48, tomciara said...
I've used 2 meter extensions to a nice Kramer USB jack that works fine. Not sure why 20' should cause issues.

It's not that twenty feet SHOULD cause issues, it's the old digital cliff: digital signals can degrade quite a bit and still work, but at some point performance will drastically decrease as we go over the cliff, the digital cliff, shifting from imperfect waveforms to no workee.

Might work. Might not. If specs get any more stringent and bandwidth increases, may not work with the new signals.
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Post 10 made on Monday May 29, 2017 at 07:32
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The bigger issue here will be power.
A decent quality USB cable will carry the data fine, But Voltage/Current will drop and their devices may not work correctly. My suggestion would be to install a powered USB Hub at the point of customer connectivity. This will resolve the power issue and provide a better point of connection.
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OP | Post 11 made on Tuesday May 30, 2017 at 20:41
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Good ideas guys.

In manuals for receivers that I have read , I recall they have specifically said no extensions or hubs. My guess is not because they won't work, but more likely that they don't want to deal with it not working with all of the various connection schemes. If they say not to do it, and you do and it works then great.

I'll try both of the suggestions prior to committing to anything in the wall.

Thanks.

Craig
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Post 12 made on Tuesday May 30, 2017 at 21:37
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used a standard USB extender 30ft...no problem, 120ft powered ...no problem.
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Post 13 made on Thursday June 1, 2017 at 11:45
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Almost everything says don't use a USB hub.

Sometimes that's due to bandwidth requirements - if you have 8 high speed devices on a hub, there's still only the capacity for 1 high speed device at a time due to the downlink - as well as power requirements (many dirt cheap hubs are unpowered, or inadequately powered). Beyond that, you introduce another cable into the mix, which the device maker doesn't want to be responsible for.
Post 14 made on Thursday June 1, 2017 at 20:07
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I'm not understanding what you need the usb for?
The 3 devices you listed are all hdmi connections so why not just put in a 3x1 switcher in the closet above and run one hdmi (or cat5 with extender) to the display?
OP | Post 15 made on Saturday June 3, 2017 at 17:54
Craig Aguiar-Winter
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The USB is to give the client the option of using one the USB inputs on the TV for a stick or HDD. At this point he will not have any devices connected that have a USB input included on them.

Changing to a switcher would not solve the USB question, unless we then added an additional device to handle that input, which he doesn't need otherwise.

He has enough HDMI ports on the TV to support the sources he has at this time. It's cheaper to run the two extra HDMI cables than to use one , with a switcher and three (four if he adds another device) shorter cables, and also simplifies the installation and remote programming by leaving out the additional component.

Craig
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