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OP | Post 16 made on Wednesday May 24, 2017 at 07:42
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Did not take long. Rounded up a few
Post 17 made on Wednesday May 24, 2017 at 10:03
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On May 23, 2017 at 18:12, Ernie Gilman said...
A terribly difficult thing to deal with is that this was the 22 year old son of Syrian refugees who came to England before he was born. This is not just someone who came to England and bombed it. A whole life was lived in England and this was the result.

Lybian.

And the majority of the militant Muslims are second gen, just like this kid- they're in a world that's in the middle of what their parents know, where they live and the Islam their parents grew up with is far different from what it is now, according to some expert on BBC last night. It's a lot like gang members and the majority of London's Islamic problems is in Manchester, in a small radius, with people who have a similar background.

I'm not offering sympathy, just the perspective I have heard many times.
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Post 18 made on Wednesday May 24, 2017 at 18:59
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On May 24, 2017 at 01:22, tomciara said...
Mac, your analysis is very level headed if you don't mind me sayin' so.

Do I interpret your conclusion as "don't do this because it won't fix the problem"?

If so, what DO we do? Surely you wouldn't recommend we stand pat?

What im saying or tried to say is that we (the world not just the US)...

A. Have a serious problem with terrorists.

B. We are at least 50% responsible for the problem we have with terrorists today.

C. We will never solve our problem with terrorists by dropping bombs.

I think if we make 2 changes we can all but eliminate terrorism within a couple of generations.

#1. Stop fighting resource wars. Bring the troops home. Build more boats and planes and protect our shores from our shores. Let the middle east work its problems out or not. We cant go back in time and undo any mistakes but we can stop participating today. If we put our military budget/time/energy towards educating our military/police/cia/fbi etc we will do a better job at stopping terrorist activity here.

#2. Stop letting it be okay to crack jokes about groups of people. Stop letting it be okay to incorrectly blame an entire group for what some do. I personally never set a church on fire but some white men do that. My girlfriend is Puerto Rican and she has never stolen anything but some Puerto Rican's do steal things. So say/think "that criminal set a church on fire" not "white males set churches on fire".

Watch American History X. I think it does a good job of explaining how the slopes are made slippery by Archie Bunker type rhetoric...and once the ball gets rolling its difficult to stop it. Before 9/11 most of us here in the US didnt spend much time thinking about terrorism. The people in the middle east have been thinking about it/hating us for decades because of our constant meddling-for-oil.
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Post 19 made on Wednesday May 24, 2017 at 19:16
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Slopes is a racist term.
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Post 20 made on Thursday May 25, 2017 at 02:09
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On May 24, 2017 at 19:16, Fins said...
Slopes is a racist term.

I'm an American.
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Post 21 made on Thursday May 25, 2017 at 10:24
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On May 23, 2017 at 18:34, Mac Burks (39) said...
You cant pray for a travel ban or border wall and expect your children not to follow in your racist footsteps.

This is where you fall off the deep end with your radical believes. Exactly how is protecting borders racist? Is not. YOU just choose to throw the race card down EVERY chance you get. Doesn't work anymore. Only makes you looks foolish.
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