Your Universal Remote Control Center
RemoteCentral.com
Custom Installers' Lounge Forum - View Post
Previous section Next section Previous page Next page Up level
Up level
The following page was printed from RemoteCentral.com:

Login:
Pass:
 
 

Page 1 of 2
Topic:
CD Player that can be cued?
This thread has 18 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15.
Post 1 made on Thursday May 18, 2017 at 13:14
Ernie Gilman
Yes, That Ernie!
Joined:
Posts:
December 2001
30,104
It's been so long since I've done anything more than push PLAY on a client's existing CD player that I don't know the answer to this:

Do CD players, in general, allow you to cue up a track, then hit PLAY? The purpose here is to get music ready at a church. What won't work is going to a track and having the player automatically start. If they all work such that you go to a track by entering a track number or by skipping tracks, and then have to hit PAUSE immediately, then we'll have to use that.

Are there CD players made for this use? One thing that might or might not be an issue is that this player will be used about ten minutes per month.

Thanks for the help.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 2 made on Thursday May 18, 2017 at 13:19
IRkiller
Advanced Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2012
920
Once again...nevermind, see signature
how in the hell does ernie make money?
OP | Post 3 made on Thursday May 18, 2017 at 13:27
Ernie Gilman
Yes, That Ernie!
Joined:
Posts:
December 2001
30,104
I don't make money on things for the church, and I haven't sold a CD Player for years.

How often do you sell them?

Have you actually tried cuing up a track on a CD Player? In general home use, who would bother, so who would remember the exact behavior? When we want to go to a track, we want it to play right then.

So I'm asking people who might have noticed.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 4 made on Thursday May 18, 2017 at 13:54
lippavisual
Senior Member
Joined:
Posts:
December 2007
1,458
Between some commercial and consumer units that I've dealt with over the years, they all auto-play when a track is selected.
Post 5 made on Thursday May 18, 2017 at 14:09
King of typos
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2002
5,275
I remember some players allowed you to create a playlist, they didn't name it as such back then. This procedure was done before hitting play.

It has been over 10 years, but I do recall the procedure being different between brands and even model numbers.

You'll need to grab the model number and see if you can find the instructions for the player to see if this "playlist" ability is there and how to program it.

KOT
Post 6 made on Thursday May 18, 2017 at 14:22
thecynic315
Senior Member
Joined:
Posts:
August 2008
1,001
4th link when you google, and 4th item listed in the "Sponsored box/Suggested" for purchasing the item.

Do you ever bother trying Google first? I mean, Google freaking AUTOCOMPLEATED the search so this is common!
Post 7 made on Thursday May 18, 2017 at 14:44
3PedalMINI
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
July 2009
7,860
These will do it.

[Link: denonpro.com]

You have a few days of manual reading to figure out which one does what
The Bitterness of Poor Quality is Remembered Long after the Sweetness of Price is Forgotten! - Benjamin Franklin
Post 8 made on Thursday May 18, 2017 at 15:36
lippavisual
Senior Member
Joined:
Posts:
December 2007
1,458
On May 18, 2017 at 14:44, 3PedalMINI said...
These will do it.

[Link: denonpro.com]

You have a few days of manual reading to figure out which one does what

These can work with some exceptions. Hence my reply up above.

If a CD is inserted, it will automatically start playing.

Now, if a CD is inserted and then you press pause (and you have Power-Play Off is set) then you can select a specific track and it will not play automatically. This only happens in this scenario for all of their players, I believe.

If Power-Play ON, then it auto-plays all the time.
OP | Post 9 made on Thursday May 18, 2017 at 20:41
Ernie Gilman
Yes, That Ernie!
Joined:
Posts:
December 2001
30,104
On May 18, 2017 at 14:22, thecynic315 said...
4th link when you google, and 4th item listed in the "Sponsored box/Suggested" for purchasing the item.

That's only true for the exact search you did. Just now I googled "CD Player that does not autoplay" and the responses were mostly about players in computers. Then I googled "CD player that can be cued." The first response was the good old Tascam CD-450, but for an example of how far off a response can be, the second response started out this way:
INVESTIGATION OF THE DESIGN OF CD PLAYERS ... 7 groups (each with 6 pairs of students) can do the activity in the Michaelmas Term....

On May 18, 2017 at 14:22, thecynic315 also said...
Do you ever bother trying Google first? I mean, Google freaking AUTOCOMPLEATED the search so this is common!

Apparently I don't come up with the same words that you do. It would be nice if you could help me and educate me by sharing how you found it. The search terms I came up with above seem right to me!
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 10 made on Thursday May 18, 2017 at 20:52
dsp81
Advanced Member
Joined:
Posts:
October 2007
782
DJ equipment may do what you need. This player, for example, pauses on track 1 when you insert the disc. You can then cue up the track you need.

[Link: geminisound.com]

Edit: here's another.

[Link: geminisound.com]
Post 11 made on Friday May 19, 2017 at 02:35
buzz
Super Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2003
4,366
Ernie,

Are you attempting to purchase a new CD player or scrounging around for something hidden away? Most of the players that I've used will honor the current state for a track cue -- if the unit is currently paused, it will be paused after seeking the track. However, there was a problem with cuing accuracy on early units. (Think about seeking up or down and discovering a frame that indicates second zero -- are you at the beginning, end or middle of the second zero frame and should the machine take the time to work this out? And, it's tricky to maintain head position and focus at a point on a spinning disc) [further, are we working in a zero or one origin music universe?] This is why many commercial CD's have a blank second or two at the beginning of each track. If you want DJ cuing accuracy, you'll probably need a DJ type unit that allows offline cuing. (and probably has a cache of ar least a few seconds -- impractical, given the price of RAM and processing power in 1982)
OP | Post 12 made on Friday May 19, 2017 at 02:51
Ernie Gilman
Yes, That Ernie!
Joined:
Posts:
December 2001
30,104
On May 19, 2017 at 02:35, buzz said...
Ernie,

Are you attempting to purchase a new CD player or scrounging around for something hidden away?

Something new, even if the new one happens to be hidden away. I don't discriminate based on how hard it is to locate in the warehouse.

Most of the players that I've used will honor the current state for a track cue -- if the unit is currently paused, it will be paused after seeking the track. However, there was a problem with cuing accuracy on early units.

It's 2017. For me, an "early unit" could have been twenty years ago. But as I said, I'm looking for something new, not even old but NIB.

(Think about seeking up or down and discovering a frame that indicates second zero -- are you at the beginning, end or middle of the second zero frame and should the machine take the time to work this out? And, it's tricky to maintain head position and focus at a point on a spinning disc)

Do I get this complicated and dense? I've never seen PAUSE fail; that is, I've never seen ANY disc machine unable "to maintain head position and focus at a point on a spinning disc."

[further, are we working in a zero or one origin music universe?]

Just one player. One source.

This is why many commercial CD's have a blank second or two at the beginning of each track.

That makes sense. Re the next comment, plus or minus a second is absolutely no problem at all. Maybe even plus or minus two seconds would be okay.

If you want DJ cuing accuracy, you'll probably need a DJ type unit that allows offline cuing. (and probably has a cache of at least a few seconds -- impractical, given the price of RAM and processing power in 1982)

I don't understand how the state of things in 1982 applies to this discussion. Again, I'm looking for a new unit.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 13 made on Friday May 19, 2017 at 06:49
buzz
Super Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2003
4,366
On May 19, 2017 at 02:51, Ernie Gilman said...
I don't understand how the state of things in 1982 applies to this discussion. Again, I'm looking for a new unit.

The CD masters are created with this beginning of track "slop" -- its a habit. YMMV
Post 14 made on Friday May 19, 2017 at 13:38
SWOInstaller
Select Member
Joined:
Posts:
October 2010
1,589
Ernie,

Will the track that they are wanting to be cued be the same every time or will it be multiple tracks that are to be played?
You can't fix stupid
OP | Post 15 made on Friday May 19, 2017 at 14:42
Ernie Gilman
Yes, That Ernie!
Joined:
Posts:
December 2001
30,104
Each time, that is, each different day, only one track will be required, and it will probably be a different track each time.

There's a slight possibility that several minutes after the one track has finished, another track may need to be played. There will be plenty of time to make a second setup of that other single track.

Just to make things easy at the moment, I've considered burning one song onto a disc. You couldn't get the wrong track, but that still leaves the start time and it adds the task of burning a disc each time, as well as cataloging for future use.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Page 1 of 2


Jump to


Protected Feature Before you can reply to a message...
You must first register for a Remote Central user account - it's fast and free! Or, if you already have an account, please login now.

Please read the following: Unsolicited commercial advertisements are absolutely not permitted on this forum. Other private buy & sell messages should be posted to our Marketplace. For information on how to advertise your service or product click here. Remote Central reserves the right to remove or modify any post that is deemed inappropriate.

Hosting Services by ipHouse