So you seem to have an excuse not to do anything that anyone suggested...

Is there anything on your radar that IS acceptable?

Maybe slap some basic on/off switches in and just start replacing bulbs with Hue?

Oh. Okay. You're deciding what equipment you're going to put in not because you want stuff that works or looks a certain way, but you don't like the way some equipment works. But wait -- you're not thinking of putting this in and using the equipment that's best for you. Instead, you're thinking of what it will get you when you sell. As for that, the system you didn't like will cost less than what you want and neither will increase the ROI, so buy the one you don't like.


Do people in your neighborhood decide what TV you buy? That's one of the strangest things I've ever heard! I find it commendable that you loved TV enough to get a great one, particularly since you're an installer. Whatever the neighbors had was irrelevant.


That's definitely a reason not to use Control4.

THIS!!!!

also don't forget that as a dealer you get a discount for personal use.

Look at dealer promos and kits as well to see if any of them help with the price.

All you need to program PYNG is a web browser, YEAH there is ALSO an app where you can do everything on an iPad.

I did my whole 1100 sq/ft apt with PYNG and it is great, super easy to install, even with the "fun" crappy 1970s wiring in my place.

And the plus side your Crestron Rep will be happy and you're company will have some better numbers in the Lighting and Control columns!

What impact said makes the most sense. Just do an on/off switch and replace with hue. (they have just the white bulbs if colors arent your thing)

honestly, I was nervous about the whole pico/3 way thing but its fine. and lets be honest here. it is lutron with clear connect..lutron is maybe the ONE company that makes a product that just works. Their business decisions dont make any sense but their products just plain work.

I am very frustrated with lutron and the caseta line as it does more then RA2, integrates the same way and really I have a hard time justifying ra2 right now unless its a bigger system..The only drawback is the look of the switches but for ~55 i cant complain to much.

Ive been doing alot of caseta as an entry system with C4 at the helm and I can do everything I can possibly want with it. Im also having a hard time selling C4 switches as well...yeah i dont make as much money on caseta but I make up for it in the programming time.

Ernie, I have been a part of this forum for 14 years and rarely have I seen you be a more condescending asshole. I asked a simple question, is there a product line out there other than Control4 that can be done at a reasonable price that other CIs had success with. Other than to try to be a smartass you have offered nothing in terms of response unlike some others. I seriously hope I pass on to my next life before I turn into a grumpy dick.

Guys that threw up Pyng, thanks! I'll take a look as I hadn't given it any thought.

There's your answer, then. It looks like you need to get over your feeling about the keypads.


Why would you see lighting controls as an investment instead of an expense, particularly in a house in that price range, and also if your selection criteria include the way it looks or operates? Isn't the paramount consideration for ROI how easy or difficult it would be for the next owner to use and maintain? How about you? Don't you count in this equation?


Then you need to make a list of those products whose companies offer support directly to end users, and choose from among them.

Just ignore Ernie, but yeah I think you will like PYNG.

Also Crestron has a new similar product for Commercial called ZUM, though in theory you could do small spaces with PYNG, so why not learn it since you sell it.

Is it about ROI or enjoyment of your home? In 2007 I put in a $17K HW system in a $450K house. Will probably never see a dime of it on resale, but I might sell quicker if someone likes it.

I had planned on taking it with me when I move, but since it is Illumination I won't bother and will just start over with QS at the new place.

As for why I did it, I wanted it. I love lighting control so its value is my enjoyment of it and not a ROI. Now if you are only going to be there for a couple of years that is a different story.

OP,
I'm sorry if I offended you! But haven't you heard people ask sincere questions about a detail of what they want to do, and wondered if maybe they should do something different from what they have in mind?

On the other hand, I might have, but obviously was not, this succinct and kind:



I really wanted you to reconsider your options and give, perhaps, more credence to your personal preferences than you were doing. It's unsatisfying to create something for your own personal use, and use it every day, when you're choosing things you don't want.

I am going to second Kgossen and say "
Have you looked at Crestron Pyng? "
Easy as pie to program and expand.
Your company is probably and elite dealer, so the engraving will be free.