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| Topic: | What's nec say about 14/4 in wall speaker wire outer layer stripped distance? This thread has 50 replies. Displaying posts 46 through 51. |
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| Post 46 made on Sunday May 7, 2017 at 11:18 |
Mac Burks (39) Elite Member |
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14/4 (or 12 depending on project) to first speaker from head end. 14/4 from first speaker to second speaker.
On our prints the home run has a different wite number than the local 14/4 that goes between speakers.
I use wagos to "splice thru" to the second speaker.
Unused conductors get cut off at each end of the local 14/4.
Clean (no tape), easy to follow (different wire numbers), one
Spool of wire, works every time.
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| Post 47 made on Sunday May 7, 2017 at 12:20 |
Archibald "Harry" Tuttle Advanced Member |
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On May 5, 2017 at 13:57, gerard143 said...
Why do you bother looping it. Why is a straight run not good enough. Run it near speaker 1. Then continue speaker 2. Maybe pull a tad extra and leave it loose not pulled real tight. Terminate speaker 2. Back at speaker one score 6 inches. Cut far end and 6" should be enough to make it to the terminals. I don't see why that wouldn't work fine and avoid the confusion of loop direction. Sounds like something one of my old bosses would say. I think he insatalled about zero ceiling speakers in his career.
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| Post 48 made on Sunday May 7, 2017 at 12:22 |
Archibald "Harry" Tuttle Advanced Member |
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On May 5, 2017 at 18:11, Zohan said...
Once you do it you'll know why.
Do what works best for you.
I do a loop ad I leave plenty of it. I'm not looking to pinch pennies, not looking to run 14/4 and then 14/2 to second speaker. That's another box of wire I'd need to carry in and out.
I leave a large loop so I'm not working looking up straining my neck speaker after speaker, working with my hands up in a hole. I can work on top of ladder with speaker if large loop.
Easy, fast.
I'm by myself so I need to be efficient. I also learned a way to beat the wire direction when I didn't run the wiring myself because, simply, it seems it's too freaking hard for a lot of bozos to mark a wire properly.
At first speaker loop, cut wire fully, strip both sides of red/black and twist reds together and insert to speaker, do the same for blacks, now there's no directional issue. Then terminate the second speaker.
Now I know for sure when I fire the system up I'm not dragging out the ladder again to remove and rewire any speakers.
Done. Move on. Pro style.
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| Post 49 made on Sunday May 7, 2017 at 18:53 |
Craig Aguiar-Winter Senior Member |
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Totally. I like that twisting the reds and blacks together. No more finding which way the amp is.
Craig
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| Post 50 made on Sunday May 7, 2017 at 19:08 |
faster48 Long Time Member |
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On May 5, 2017 at 18:11, Zohan said...
At first speaker loop, cut wire fully, strip both sides of red/black and twist reds together and insert to speaker, do the same for blacks, now there's no directional issue. Then terminate the second speaker.
Now I know for sure when I fire the system up I'm not dragging out the ladder again to remove and rewire any speakers.
Done. Move on. This! Was at the beach on Thursday installing a camera system. Client asked us to find out why one of the outdoor speakers wasn't working (four in-ceilings in an outdoor ceiling). Ends up one of my guys wired the wrong side of an unlabeled 14/4 (our own fault). Since I couldn't verify what was what, I twisted both sides of the red and black together then inserted into the speaker... all fixed.
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| Post 51 made on Sunday May 7, 2017 at 20:57 |
Zohan Super Member |
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Thx guys.
I just re-read my post and I said something in my mind that didnt translate to the keyboard.
When I said cut wire fully, i didnt mean all conductors, I only meant cut the red/black all the way through, then go ahead with the procedure. The green/white are never cut they go straight to the end speaker.
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