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What amp(s) are you using with Sonos Connects?
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Post 16 made on Wednesday May 3, 2017 at 18:47
Impaqt
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On May 3, 2017 at 18:34, tweeterguy said...
What is staking?

If you mean stacking Connects all in a rack...done dozens of times some in the double digits; not a single problem.

fixed..

Just because something "Works" doesn't make it the right thing to do.
Post 17 made on Wednesday May 3, 2017 at 18:56
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On May 3, 2017 at 18:47, Impaqt said...
fixed..

Just because something "Works" doesn't make it the right thing to do.

What would you do if you needed multiple zones in a Sonos only job? Scatter them all around the house? All hard-wired to an unmanaged gigabit switch with SonosNet disabled has never once caused me a single network issue.
Post 18 made on Wednesday May 3, 2017 at 19:06
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On May 3, 2017 at 18:34, tweeterguy said...
What is staking?

If you mean stacking Connects all in a rack...done dozens of times some in the double digits; not a single problem.

Same here
Post 19 made on Wednesday May 3, 2017 at 19:08
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I'm different than all these other rubes...I use Audio Control or Parasound.
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Post 20 made on Wednesday May 3, 2017 at 19:44
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Parasound 1250.
I came into this game for the action, the excitement. Go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's AV trouble, a man alone.
Post 21 made on Wednesday May 3, 2017 at 20:21
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On May 3, 2017 at 18:47, Impaqt said...
fixed..

Just because something "Works" doesn't make it the right thing to do.

Doesn't make it wrong just cause you think it is.
Post 22 made on Wednesday May 3, 2017 at 20:30
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On May 3, 2017 at 14:30, PSS said...
I was looking at the Audio Control Director Series with DSP's for Origin speakers if the client goes for it!!

My goto ^
Post 23 made on Wednesday May 3, 2017 at 20:42
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I've done dozens of jobs with Audio Control with Connects in a rack. It works fine, sounds Ok, and the clients are happy and pay their bill.
When good enough is not good enough.
Post 24 made on Wednesday May 3, 2017 at 22:56
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AudioControl and Origin is the way I would lean.
Post 25 made on Wednesday May 3, 2017 at 23:34
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On May 3, 2017 at 18:56, tweeterguy said...
What would you do if you needed multiple zones in a Sonos only job? Scatter them all around the house? All hard-wired to an unmanaged gigabit switch with SonosNet disabled has never once caused me a single network issue.

I Guess I just fail to see how a bunch of home run sonos boxes would ever need to be a "Sonos only" job.

We use Matrix Switches and the number of streams reasonable for the house. Usually Bluesound or Autonomics based.. But sometimes a sonos or 2.

I've never put more than 4 Sonos's in a home run location.... and somehow all my systems work too...

I'm clearly in the minority here though.. so I'll leave it at that.
Post 26 made on Thursday May 4, 2017 at 00:01
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On May 3, 2017 at 23:34, Impaqt said...
I Guess I just fail to see how a bunch of home run sonos boxes would ever need to be a "Sonos only" job.

We use Matrix Switches and the number of streams reasonable for the house. Usually Bluesound or Autonomics based.. But sometimes a sonos or 2.

I've never put more than 4 Sonos's in a home run location.... and somehow all my systems work too...

I'm clearly in the minority here though.. so I'll leave it at that.

I dont care how great you are, how amazing your programming is or what have you, you just cannot beat the ease of use and functionality of the sonos app. Before sonos yanking C4s driver it was really good and I found my clients tended to just use C4 but now its bad....

I lost a very good client due to this debacle. he has 19 zones of audio and only 3 people living in the house, therefor i did 3 connects. Before he was happier then a clam, but now with the piss poor driver he has a hard time knowing when to go back and forth between C4/Sonos. Before he "fired" me I offered to install the connects for the remaining zones at my cost and no labor to try and save the relationship but no bueno.

This whole C4/Sonos debacle has taught me one thing, you can no longer integrate items and expect them to work in this day in age, especially with services like spotify in the mix dictating things. For now on its X connects for x amount of zones. No more matrices, no more integration. If sonos works for the client then they are getting a stack of sonos in their rack and will have to use two different platforms... Its only a matter of time before pandora, deezer you name it follow in spotifys footsteps and bone everyone.
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Post 27 made on Thursday May 4, 2017 at 03:23
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On May 4, 2017 at 00:01, 3PedalMINI said...
I lost a very good client due to this debacle. he has 19 zones of audio and only 3 people living in the house, therefor i did 3 connects. Before he was happier then a clam, but now with the piss poor driver he has a hard time knowing when to go back and forth between C4/Sonos. Before he "fired" me I offered to install the connects for the remaining zones at my cost and no labor to try and save the relationship but no bueno.

Don't mean to derail but... You did everything right and even went way above & beyond to please the customer, on something that was not even your fault.
That was 'not' a good customer to begin with, you just didn't know it at the time. Dude was a dick in disguise. You really didn't lose anything.
Post 28 made on Thursday May 4, 2017 at 07:20
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Parasound 1250 with Parasound 4DAX. I think some of the Audio control amps have a digital input as well so you are not relying on the DACs of the Connects. Both companies are good so whichever you have access.
Post 29 made on Thursday May 4, 2017 at 11:11
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On May 4, 2017 at 00:01, 3PedalMINI said...
I dont care how great you are, how amazing your programming is or what have you, you just cannot beat the ease of use and functionality of the sonos app. Before sonos yanking C4s driver it was really good and I found my clients tended to just use C4 but now its bad....

This whole C4/Sonos debacle has taught me one thing, you can no longer integrate items and expect them to work in this day in age, especially with services like spotify in the mix dictating things. For now on its X connects for x amount of zones. No more matrices, no more integration. If sonos works for the client then they are getting a stack of sonos in their rack and will have to use two different platforms... Its only a matter of time before pandora, deezer you name it follow in spotifys footsteps and bone everyone.

I'm with 3PedalMINI on this one...I LOVE complex, all-encompassing integration but it's become a fool's errand and impossible to cost justify for most installations. No one complains about SONOS...It just works with rare exception.
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Post 30 made on Thursday May 4, 2017 at 21:38
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On May 4, 2017 at 07:20, BobL said...
Parasound 1250 with Parasound 4DAX. I think some of the Audio control amps have a digital input as well so you are not relying on the DACs of the Connects. Both companies are good so whichever you have access.

Thanks for the 4Dax info. If only Parasound made the 1250 or a version of the 1250 with built in Dac's it would be perfect.

The Audiocontrol I looked at as well. Most units have like 1 digital input The Network Matrix 8ch Amp has 4 digital inputs but the 16ch only has 2. Don't get it.

Sonance DSP Amps also have Optional Digital cards.

Audio is much better over digital out on the connect.
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