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It's official. Kodi is illegal.
This thread has 36 replies. Displaying posts 31 through 37.
Post 31 made on Saturday April 29, 2017 at 21:43
ichbinbose
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On April 29, 2017 at 20:09, Trunk-Slammer -Supreme said...
You reading minds through threads now?

Yep, you responded exactly as I expected.
So thanks for playing
Post 32 made on Sunday April 30, 2017 at 01:35
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On April 29, 2017 at 14:58, Fins said...
I didn't realize you could scare a vending machine with a gun and make it give up its DVDs.

You can't...but try telling that to Floridians.
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Post 33 made on Sunday April 30, 2017 at 07:14
Trunk-Slammer -Supreme
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On April 29, 2017 at 21:43, ichbinbose said...
Yep, you responded exactly as I expected.
So thanks for playing

Well, since YOU are the only intelligent one here, please do educate this poor ignorant person.

I apparently don't know anything about anything. Just another damn "Deplorable" here.
Post 34 made on Sunday April 30, 2017 at 13:23
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So what would you consider the "best" box in terms of color accuracy, video performance, etc.?

On April 29, 2017 at 00:57, Daniel Tonks said...
But that's still the wrong question. The whole INTENTION of the marketed "magic boxes", as discussed in these articles, is to enable these illegal streams.

But it's not a "Kodi" box, it's cheap hardware that runs an open source operating system, which in turns runs an open source media player, which in turn runs custom modifications that aren't in the control of any of the former "supporting parties". Android and the SOC-maker are just as much to blame in this scenario as Kodi (for enabling Kodi to run and do it's thing, don't you think?), but as the last link in the chain, Kodi is the name that pops up when it boots, so it gets the bad rap.

But if Kodi wasn't available, or somehow locked down their plug-in architecture to only "known" developers (is that in the spirit of open source?), those guys would just hack some front end onto VLC or one of many other open source media players that can do similar things as Kodi.

I myself have 4 "Kodi boxes" - some based on Intel NUC systems, and others based on "hacked" Chromeboxes, all running LibreElec. So, good Intel hardware. They contain nothing but my own personal ripped library and other legal streaming sources. I have participated in the development of Kodi (mostly as an alpha tester and annoying hard ass on making sure things work correctly in terms of pristine color space accuracy and other playback glitches). The official forums are very strict on not supporting anyone running illegal addons (by requiring full logs posted for any tech support, which detail all running plugins).

Anyways: I had thought that XBMC had changed their name to Kodi to allow legal protection of that name from these kinds of abusers. Doesn't seem to have helped.
"When I eat, it is the food that is scared." - Ron Swanson
Post 35 made on Monday May 1, 2017 at 13:47
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All things Kodi aside, I find that the Nvidia Shield TV is hands down the best media player/streamer available today (the new UHD Roku comes in 2nd). The new 2017 model only has ir control on the pro model, but it has great specs and can handle anything you can throw at it including 4k x265 decoding and native Netflix app with 4k with surround support. It is even powerful enough that Plex media server can be run on it. It also has a nice couch interface in the Leanback launcher (Android TV) and includes access to the play store which has tons of apps and games.

Of course you can also just load Kodi from the play store like any other app, Nvidia even has marketing material showcasing it's support of Kodi.

Here's a blog post from Nvidia:

[Link: shield.nvidia.com]
Post 36 made on Wednesday May 3, 2017 at 08:47
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On April 28, 2017 at 14:13, Dean Roddey said...
But, really, that's another way of saying, people will steal whatever they want, and your option is to either reduce your business by going along with it, or go out of business. That's not how a free market is supposed to work.

The same applied to Napster. There's no right in the Constitution to be able to get digital content any time and anywhere and any way you want, for whatever price you feel like paying. Napster was created to make a butt load of money for the people who started it, off the backs of the people who created the content, and it got big because people used it because they could get the content for free, instead of actually paying for it. They took away the rights of the creators to control their product by force, not by valid market economics.

The thing is, none of you guys would accept this type of pressure on your business as fair market economics, as none of the rest of the world would on theirs. But everyone just assumes that any failure of the digital content industry to back down from any sort of control over their own product is just a sign that they are dinosaurs and need to be set straight.

By this sort of logic, customers of yours who talk you into giving them plans for systems they say they will buy, who then just take the plans somewhere else and get a better deal, or who just contest the price once the job is done and don't pay up in full because they know you don't have the money to take them all to court, would be just demonstrating to you that you are behind the times, and that people will get their automation systems how they want it, for the price they want it.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, as they say. Well, no one actually says that anymore probably, but the lesson is valid.

Spot on...
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Post 37 made on Wednesday May 3, 2017 at 15:25
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On April 30, 2017 at 13:23, Audiophiliac said...
So what would you consider the "best" box in terms of color accuracy, video performance, etc.?

I haven't tried that many, but lately I've been very satisfied with newer generation Intel hardware (after they fixed the 23.976hz bug). Banding and other anomalies are pretty much gone now that you can properly set full/limited RGB modes (it used to be faked). BUT Intel's currently not great for 4K content until you get into far too expensive hardware.
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