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| Topic: | Matrices Best Practices with AVR involved in a zone? This thread has 31 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30. |
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| Post 16 made on Friday March 3, 2017 at 14:42 |
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On March 3, 2017 at 12:57, vwpower44 said...
I can't believe I didn't think about this. Putting a transmitter on the AVR, and put the Receiver on the input of the AVR. Then the Receiver at the TV could select inputs, as well as the receiver. Same amount of parts, but I feel like this is a better solution. I just used the JAP as a point to point 4k connection. Just did this the other day on a new install with an Atlona switcher. HDBT out to Sony TV, mirrored HDMI out to Receiver input for audio. i added a HDMI to receiver output to the switcher and used the front panel to select it on the Sony. Now I had the onscreen available in the room for speaker and config setup. Worked wonderful.
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| Post 17 made on Friday March 3, 2017 at 15:40 |
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On March 3, 2017 at 12:57, vwpower44 said...
I can't believe I didn't think about this. Putting a transmitter on the AVR, and put the Receiver on the input of the AVR. Then the Receiver at the TV could select inputs, as well as the receiver. Same amount of parts, but I feel like this is a better solution. I just used the JAP as a point to point 4k connection. Same amount of parts compared to what?
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| Post 18 made on Friday March 3, 2017 at 16:32 |
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On March 3, 2017 at 12:57, vwpower44 said...
I can't believe I didn't think about this. Putting a transmitter on the AVR, and put the Receiver on the input of the AVR. Then the Receiver at the TV could select inputs, as well as the receiver. Same amount of parts, but I feel like this is a better solution. I just used the JAP as a point to point 4k connection. What was the benefit over running JAP receiver I to AVR and HDBT from receiver to TV? Simply for 4K?
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| Post 19 made on Friday March 3, 2017 at 16:37 |
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On March 1, 2017 at 21:31, Fins said...
What customer needs the display on screen? Half of my clients complain about volume and inputs popping up on screen. It's not for the customer. It's for the guy who would have to string an HDMI cable from the cabinet to behind the display whenever he needs to make a minor change/adjustment. Volume popping up on screen is awesome. Do you remember the years when OSD was over composite only and video sources were over component? We got complaints about not being able to see the volume level.
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| Post 20 made on Friday March 3, 2017 at 16:50 |
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wwhhoopsss.. Sorry i forgot to respond to this thread.
I have not seen sync issues when doing a JAP Receiver on both the SS AVR and Display. Most AVRs have been removing the on screen interfaces anyways and are treated like amps.
You can run an HDMI cable or balun out of the AVR to the Display just keep in mind when doing 4K etc you may run into issues.
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| Post 21 made on Friday March 3, 2017 at 16:52 |
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What AVRs are removing on screen interfaces?
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| Post 22 made on Friday March 3, 2017 at 16:56 |
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On March 3, 2017 at 16:52, goldenzrule said...
What AVRs are removing on screen interfaces? By on screen I meant on screen volume sorry. I Saw it go away on Sonys.. NAD just killed it if you upgrade to their 4K MDC boards.
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| Post 23 made on Friday March 3, 2017 at 17:48 |
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can also setup a Sony with a web browser and no need for OSD
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| Post 24 made on Friday March 3, 2017 at 20:24 |
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Ok I'm confused. Why would you have a JAP receiver at both the AVR and the display?
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| Post 25 made on Friday March 3, 2017 at 20:48 |
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On March 3, 2017 at 20:24, Stryker said...
Ok I'm confused. Why would you have a JAP receiver at both the AVR and the display? What he is doing is: JAP receiver feeding to TV to feed video to TV directly JAP receiver feeding to an input on AVR to feed audio into AVR of all sources JAP transmitter connected to monitor out of AVR to feed the AVR on screen display into JAP system To display on the TV. So no feed directly from AVR to TV. All through JAP
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| Post 26 made on Friday March 3, 2017 at 21:45 |
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Ok. But why? Why not jap to avr then to tv? That way the avr does audio, and video processing to the tv.
What is gained by having the jap at both avr and tv?
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| Post 27 made on Friday March 3, 2017 at 21:53 |
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On March 3, 2017 at 21:45, Stryker said...
Ok. But why? Why not jap to avr then to tv? That way the avr does audio, and video processing to the tv.
What is gained by having the jap at both avr and tv? That I cannot answer. I do it the way you mentioned.
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| Post 28 made on Saturday March 4, 2017 at 00:33 |
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On March 3, 2017 at 21:45, Stryker said...
Ok. But why? Why not jap to avr then to tv? That way the avr does audio, and video processing to the tv.
What is gained by having the jap at both avr and tv? I haven't talked to Brendon but I would do that so that single input can be fed to multiple locations. - JAP to AVR means that I have have single DTV fed to multiple TVs. - AVR to JAP means that I don't have distance restriction and there might be sources like CCTV that I don't need to feed thru AVR.
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| Post 29 made on Sunday March 5, 2017 at 14:37 |
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We always place local pre/pro or AVR in surround zones unless the headend rack is within reasonable distance.
Matrix/TX into local RX AVR, HDMI upto display. There is either a direct path to the display or conduit from the AVR to the display.
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| Post 30 made on Sunday March 5, 2017 at 18:05 |
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On March 3, 2017 at 21:45, Stryker said...
Ok. But why? Why not jap to avr then to tv? That way the avr does audio, and video processing to the tv.
What is gained by having the jap at both avr and tv? The entire point of using a JAP system is to eliminate cable issues, EDID issues etc. Once you go out of the AVR via a balun or long HDMI cable you now run the risk of re-introducing those issues into that display.
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