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Mount Manufacturers, please don't make mounts where the piece that mounts on the TV is horizontal.
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Post 1 made on Friday February 24, 2017 at 13:34
Ernie Gilman
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I have seen many TVs that have power or signal connections horizontally in line with the VESA screw holes. This means that if the parts of the mount that go on the TV are horizontal, there's a good chance the mount will have to be cut down just to make necessary connections.

I have never seen a TV that has an electrical or signal connection vertically in line with the VESA screw holes. A mount whose vertical pieces mount on the TV will never block connections.

We have been moving some of a client's TVs from one house to another. Yesterday we took a 65" down from its Sanus VLF525 and attempted to mount a Samsung UN75ES9000 to the Sanus. Yes, it's old, from 2012.

In short:
Mount's lower horizontal arm blocked power connection.
Instead of just cutting the arm, we slid the mount over one hole.
Hung TV.
TV sagged on one side since it was not hung from the center. Understandable.
We found another problem: Two puny #10ish size screws could not be tightened enough to hold the TV; even if we could get it level, the TV would probably go out of level any time the client pulled the TV out.

Basically we have a mount that has to be cut to fit; it can't be tightened to stay level; its major feature, then, "Full Motion," can't be used without having to level the TV EVERY TIME it's moved.

What a pretty, good-looking, worthless mount!

We took it off the wall and used the Chief mount the TV had been on before. (I don't have that model number.) That held the TV against the wall and all was good.
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Post 2 made on Friday February 24, 2017 at 13:48
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Actually, when changing a clients LG for a Sony. the vertical pieces of a Chief mount did in fact block the inputs.

I had to cut 6" off one of the pieces in order to mount the Sony. SawZall, metal cutting blade, side grinder, and then some black paint, and all was well.

It happens.
Post 3 made on Friday February 24, 2017 at 14:11
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Sanus has been a popular mount the last few years, because BestBuy and HHGreg have been pushing them.
I have always liked Sanus funiture and speaker stands. But their mounts are a steaming pile of crap!!!!

I inform customers when I see the Sanus mount, that their might be extra labor involved. But more importantly, the TV may not come out the way you like - sagging tilts, arms that won't stay in place, etc...
OP | Post 4 made on Friday February 24, 2017 at 14:21
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The exception proves the rule:
On February 24, 2017 at 13:48, Trunk-Slammer -Supreme said...
Actually, when changing a clients LG for a Sony. the vertical pieces of a Chief mount did in fact block the inputs.

I had to cut 6" off one of the pieces in order to mount the Sony. SawZall, metal cutting blade, side grinder, and then some black paint, and all was well.

It happens.

Well, sooprize, sooprize! This sounds like 3/4 hour of labor, if you don't count the added time it takes, or even a second visit because you don't have time to wait for the paint to dry.



"Proves the rule" is an expression that originated when "proving" meant "testing;" something that had been proven had been tested. So... the exception tests the rule. Oddly, nobody mentions it unless the rule is broken.
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Post 5 made on Saturday February 25, 2017 at 11:07
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I avoid most Sanus mounts. They're expensive, people often see the price from places like Monoprice and expect low, low, LOW prices to be the norm. The problem is that the $79 mount from Monoprice is better than some of the Sanus, Chief and Peerless mounts, certainly for the money, anyway. I have found some mounts from Skywalker to work as well, if not better, than most and I use two models in most cases. The one that's rated for "most TVs up to 47" is also rated for 150 lb, so I use it for larger ones, as well as smaller sets when there's a chance it will be replaced with something bigger. The extra pieces aren't needed when the hole spacing is 400 x 400 and if the TV needs larger diameter screws, I use a step drill to enlarge the ones in the plate. If I need to add a spacer, I do. The TV and mount manufacturers don't care. The TV manufacturers think the TVs will be sitting on their base and throw a few holes in and the mount manufacturers throw a bag of screws and other crap at us so we can have something to complain about.

What do you think end users do when they can't get the hardware to work? (they sometimes go to a local hardware store and ask people who don't know)
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Post 6 made on Saturday February 25, 2017 at 12:30
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May as well ask TV manufactures to print the bolt size and length next to the hole.
It's custom, that's what we do.
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Post 7 made on Saturday February 25, 2017 at 13:32
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On February 25, 2017 at 12:30, Rob Grabon said...
May as well ask TV manufactures to print the bolt size and length next to the hole.
It's custom, that's what we do.

The bolt diameter and pitch are far less of a problem for anyone who saves some of the excess hardware from mounts. The PITA is A) storage, B) organizing it and C) deciding how long to save this crap.

I wouldn't mind them putting the power port in the middle, around 4" from the top- that way, it's not being crushed when the TV is tilted, it's not too close to the AV jacks and the mount won't be in the way. I would also like them to have all of the inputs in a row, along one edge of a side, not at the bottom and not on the back.

I also want a pony, but I doubt that will happen, even though my birthday is in April. Or, a Unicorn.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
OP | Post 8 made on Saturday February 25, 2017 at 15:17
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On February 25, 2017 at 13:32, highfigh said...
The bolt diameter and pitch are far less of a problem for anyone who saves some of the excess hardware from mounts. The PITA is A) storage, B) organizing it and C) deciding how long to save this crap.

I carry about ten pounds of this stuff. The only reason I carry it is that it's all metric! I got some matching metric nuts from an industrial hardware store to make the hardware even more useful. I've collected enough of this stuff to send about 20 pounds of it overseas when I was working out of the States.
I wouldn't mind them putting the power port in the middle, around 4" from the top- that way, it's not being crushed when the TV is tilted, it's not too close to the AV jacks and the mount won't be in the way. I would also like them to have all of the inputs in a row, along one edge of a side, not at the bottom and not on the back.

This is very unlikely, like your pony. All the structure and stuff in a TV is down near the bottom. That upper area where you want the outlet (good idea, though) is just minimal support for the glass. Putting power up there would mean adding another mechanically strong area.
I also want a pony, but I doubt that will happen, even though my birthday is in April. Or, a Unicorn.

Is pony the birthstone for April?
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Post 9 made on Saturday February 25, 2017 at 15:42
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On February 25, 2017 at 15:17, Ernie Gilman said...
I carry about ten pounds of this stuff. The only reason I carry it is that it's all metric! I got some matching metric nuts from an industrial hardware store to make the hardware even more useful. I've collected enough of this stuff to send about 20 pounds of it overseas when I was working out of the States.
This is very unlikely, like your pony. All the structure and stuff in a TV is down near the bottom. That upper area where you want the outlet (good idea, though) is just minimal support for the glass. Putting power up there would mean adding another mechanically strong area.
Is pony the birthstone for April?

But I WANT ONE!

If the structure is in the bottom, why do they put two of the screw mounts in the upper half? They could change the mold and thicken the plastic where the power inlet is located- if anyone hangs the TV from the cord, they deserve whatever they get.

No, birthstone for April is polished Unicorn horn.
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Post 10 made on Saturday February 25, 2017 at 20:58
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On February 25, 2017 at 13:32, highfigh said...
The bolt diameter and pitch are far less of a problem for anyone who saves some of the excess hardware from mounts. The PITA is A) storage, B) organizing it and C) deciding how long to save this crap.

I just stop by my FIL's and pick up what's needed, as he has all the unused screws, spacers, washers and such for every mount I've ever used, and he has them very well sorted and organized.

Best pack rat ever. LOL
Post 11 made on Sunday February 26, 2017 at 11:29
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On February 25, 2017 at 20:58, Trunk-Slammer -Supreme said...
I just stop by my FIL's and pick up what's needed, as he has all the unused screws, spacers, washers and such for every mount I've ever used, and he has them very well sorted and organized.

Best pack rat ever. LOL

Um, whats a FIL?
Post 12 made on Sunday February 26, 2017 at 11:37
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On February 26, 2017 at 11:29, Ranger Home said...
Um, whats a FIL?

Father In Law?
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Post 13 made on Sunday February 26, 2017 at 17:03
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On February 26, 2017 at 11:37, highfigh said...
Father In Law?

I cannot believe there was a person didn't know this.
Post 14 made on Sunday February 26, 2017 at 22:11
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Problem with power on top is by code, appliances have to reach outlets that are normally located 12-18" AFF.

TV mfg calculate TV height to be 24" and comply with the law by supplying TV cord that's just long enough.

To put power plug near the top of TV, means supplying cord that's 8-15" longer.

That would add .00003 cents to cost of the unit, and break the bank.
OP | Post 15 made on Monday February 27, 2017 at 12:13
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On February 26, 2017 at 22:11, Mario said...
That would add .00003 cents to cost of the unit, and break the bank.

Hilarious and true. It would increase the cost of a TV from $899.95 to $899.99, thereby missing the price point!
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
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