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| Topic: | Customer wants to take in-ceiling speakers to new house, need replacements This thread has 16 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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| Post 1 made on Tuesday January 17, 2017 at 08:14 |
SWFLMike Long Time Member |
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This guy is moving and wants to take his speakers with him. But they're large. They're Revel W990s I believe, 19.1" x 12.5".
They're in a TnG ceiling, so patching isn't an option.
And there are 2 rooms like this, 4 in each (sides and rears).
Looking for recommendations for what can fill these holes. I'm looking all over, but this may be a no-go. These things are an odd size. Thanks
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| Post 2 made on Tuesday January 17, 2017 at 08:48 |
sirroundsound Senior Member |
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Might not be worth the expense. Chances are that if you find in wall / ceiling speakers that fit the same opening, they will probably end up being just as expensive as the Revel's. Add in your labour to deal with it all and your client will be better off buying new speakers for his new home.
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| Post 3 made on Tuesday January 17, 2017 at 08:50 |
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| Post 4 made on Tuesday January 17, 2017 at 09:01 |
kwkshift Active Member |
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On January 17, 2017 at 08:50, bricor said...
Yes! :D
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| Post 5 made on Tuesday January 17, 2017 at 09:56 |
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So you are researching for free a way for customer to keep his speaker? They are odd, you know it. Call Revel. Can you purchase bezel and grill? If not be done with it. If you insist I would look for some in wall subs as those are large. Lots of cheap stuff out there. Maybe you can get those parts.
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| OP | Post 6 made on Tuesday January 17, 2017 at 10:15 |
SWFLMike Long Time Member |
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On January 17, 2017 at 08:50, bricor said...
Haha... Nice
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| Post 7 made on Tuesday January 17, 2017 at 10:20 |
Ranger Home Super Member |
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On January 17, 2017 at 08:50, bricor said...
Hahhahaha. Needed that laugh this morning. Pretty funny. (and an option!)
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| Post 8 made on Tuesday January 17, 2017 at 10:25 |
Neurorad Super Member |
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Fill the holes with Revel W990s. They should fit the cutouts nicely.
Might be relatively cheap to install a new T&G ceiling - painted?
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| Post 9 made on Tuesday January 17, 2017 at 10:28 |
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Make sure you find out if the contract allows for the removal.
You just might be taking them out and putting them back in on your time.
Most of the time, items built into the house stay with the sale of the house unless
otherwise specified in the contract.
If not, you get to sell more nice speakers!!!
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| Post 10 made on Tuesday January 17, 2017 at 10:55 |
Mac Burks (39) Elite Member |
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Pick any rectangle speaker you want. Go to metal shop and have "transition plates" made that cover the existing hole and provide you with a new one that is the right size for the new speaker. Paint the plate the same color as the ceiling.
I saw this done at a project with round speakers. At first i noticed it and asked about it but a week later you don't even know its there.
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| Post 11 made on Tuesday January 17, 2017 at 11:31 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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As complicated as this is, it's even worse than you describe. Let's rewrite this from the point of view of the new owner:
I bought a house from a guy who left four holes in the ceiling, about 19" x 12". The ceiling is tongue and groove, so the entire ceiling will have to be replaced in each room. What kind of an idiot does that? And he did it so he could keep ten year old speakers ( ! ) instead of buying new ones for his new place! What a PITA!
And of course, part of that might be "and I was the idiot who told him he could take his speakers with him" or "I never said it would be okay to leave gaping holes that ruin the look of the ceiling."
Or from the point of view of a contractor:
"Idiot bought a house and allowed the previous owner to take speakers about 19" x 12" with him. The ceiling is tongue and groove and the new owner (the idiot) is complaining that we have to replace the entire ceilings with tongue and groove, or worse yet, turn them into drywall ceilings. And all of this so the old owner could keep his ten year old speakers."
Whatever the details are, the present owner and the new owner better be on the same page about these speakers and holes. I mean, does the new owner want speakers there at all? And it would be best for you to stand aside if any of these details aren't fully understood by all parties!
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| Post 12 made on Tuesday January 17, 2017 at 11:54 |
hdsystems Long Time Member |
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Enlarge the opening to 19 1/8 x 13 5/8, put in a filler and install whatever speaker you want, then cover it all with a triad size V grill. They'll even paint it for you!
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| Post 13 made on Wednesday January 18, 2017 at 10:01 |
Richie Rich Senior Member |
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Had a client change his mind about house audio when his house was 90% complete.
He got mad that he was stuck with speaker holes in the T&G ceiling.
The bill to fabricate and attach mounts to the preconstruction rings and add dummy speaker grilles cost him more then cheapie builder grade speakers would have and came very close to the price of the Triads that were in our original bid.
But he was happy, he got his no speaker house.
Client is the dumbest smart guy (PHD) I know. He is an ongoing saga but he always pays his bills.
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| Post 14 made on Wednesday January 18, 2017 at 11:02 |
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On January 18, 2017 at 10:01, Richie Rich said...
Client is the dumbest smart guy (PHD) I know. He is an ongoing saga but he always pays his bills. Still doesnt make it always worth it. LOL
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| Post 15 made on Wednesday January 18, 2017 at 18:41 |
BizarroTerl Active Member |
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Pretty much everywhere the understanding is that when you buy a home anything attached at the time of sale/deposit is part of the home and part of the sale. There have been lawsuits over it. Heck there have been lawsuits because the sellers took plants that were planted in the yard.
I wonder what the owner would think if he found the toilets missing is his new home because the original owner wanted them and pulled them out?
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