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Finally a wallpaper TV!
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Post 16 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 17:06
Archibald "Harry" Tuttle
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On January 6, 2017 at 12:23, Rob Grabon said...
"I tried to pull out the arm, and the TV snapped in half....."

We've had the conversation Mogul describes several times in the last year or so. We use mostly Chief mounts and some of their articulating units are pretty tight, especially the ones that have been in the wall for awhile.

I been expecting to get a call one day about a snapped Sony.
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Post 17 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 19:04
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I can see it coming:

The guy that advertises the $100.00 "hang n bang" will staple the display to the wall.


You know it's true.. LOL
OP | Post 18 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 19:09
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On January 6, 2017 at 19:04, Trunk-Slammer -Supreme said...
I can see it coming:

The guy that advertises the $100.00 "hang n bang" will staple the display to the wall.

You know it's true.. LOL

Or use liquid nail
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Post 19 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 23:19
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Here's a video of a 55" for business LG wallpaper tv.


Around the 2:30 mark, they show what is in the box. The actual display has a cable that is 18 to 24" long. Then an extension cable is plugged into that then the box. Idk about the personal use, but apparently for the business model. It can be mounted upside down, or in portrait, so that the box can be mounted above the display.

KOT
Post 20 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 23:34
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On January 6, 2017 at 23:19, King of typos said...
Here's a video of a 55" for business LG wallpaper tv.


Around the 2:30 mark, they show what is in the box. The actual display has a cable that is 18 to 24" long. Then an extension cable is plugged into that then the box. Idk about the personal use, but apparently for the business model. It can be mounted upside down, or in portrait, so that the box can be mounted above the display.

KOT

The box also includes an integrated soundbar.
Yeah, that setup will work in a lot of applications (not really).

It would be awesome if they ditch the soundbar and consolidate the needed electronics into a box that could be recessed in the wall behind the display.

And I am sure the cable is proprietary so it will be 1/2in too short or 2 feet too long for 90% of the intended uses.

Reminds me of the old days of trying to fish the gigantic end of Pioneer plasma media box cables through walls.
Everything old is new again.
I am a trained professional..... Do not attempt this stunt at home.
Post 21 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 23:38
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On January 6, 2017 at 11:22, Mogul said...
I honestly do not understand the concern over the "thickness" of a TV. They've gotten so thin that they do not FUNCTION as well as older displays in some ways. Every ultra-thin OLED or LCD I've delivered lately has "waves" in it if you look across its width from the side, even though packaging and television are pristine...WTF?

Is there really a critical mass of people craving 1.2mm thick 75" screens out there...? Or is this just [largely Asian] designers trying to one-up each other...?

I have noticed that too.
On a recent install I was looking at a newly installed Samsung 4k LED that one of the guys had just hung. From the side the screen looked distorted, kinda warped diagonally.
Started poking around and found one of the top screws on the panel wasn't tightened down to the mount all the way. The display was actually bending as a result of it.

Haven't broken one yet, but wow, you have to be really, really careful with these.
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OP | Post 22 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 23:41
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On January 6, 2017 at 23:19, King of typos said...
Here's a video of a 55" for business LG wallpaper tv.


Around the 2:30 mark, they show what is in the box. The actual display has a cable that is 18 to 24" long. Then an extension cable is plugged into that then the box. Idk about the personal use, but apparently for the business model. It can be mounted upside down, or in portrait, so that the box can be mounted above the display.

KOT

At the end when they show the panel working, the box and wire are missing!

That looks like a real PIA to have to install.
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Post 23 made on Saturday January 7, 2017 at 11:42
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On January 6, 2017 at 10:12, Fins said...
I understand the need for the media player with a tv like this. You have to have somewhere for connections and speakers to go. But, at the very least, figure out how to make the connecting cable safe to run in the wall, and make it long enough, or customizable, for a real install.

Welllll...

Just yesterday I had a buddy call me and asked me to hang a TV for him. He's a bit of a techie himself, so he had already bought the TV and knew what he wanted.

It's a 48" TCL TV he got off Amazon for a few hundred bucks. I'm thinking, OK, whatever, never heard of it. "It's got Roku built into it", he says.

So I ask him if he'd like it hardwired or it we was going to rely on Wi-Fi, which I (the professional!), told him I did NOT recommend. He said, "Well, it doesn't have a LAN port, sooo...". And he was right. Hang TV. Plug in. Connect to WiFi. Sign in to Netflix, Amazon, whatever. Done.

No, it wasn't 4k, nor was it the best picture I'd seen...but the ONLY thing I plugged in was power. It had HDMI ports, but he didn't even have anything to plug into them. Everything he wanted was IN the TV.
Post 24 made on Saturday January 7, 2017 at 14:53
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On January 6, 2017 at 17:06, Archibald "Harry" Tuttle said...
We've had the conversation Mogul describes several times in the last year or so. We use mostly Chief mounts and some of their articulating units are pretty tight, especially the ones that have been in the wall for awhile.

I been expecting to get a call one day about a snapped Sony.

Just in case someone out there hasn't heard the term, let me repeat it:
"I never knew you could taco a TV! We tried to pull it out from the wall and it folded like a corn tortilla!"

On January 6, 2017 at 23:38, Richie Rich said...
Started poking around and found one of the top screws on the panel wasn't tightened down to the mount all the way. The display was actually bending as a result of it.

Haven't broken one yet, but wow, you have to be really, really careful with these.

Maybe not. Someone wasn't careful with that TV but it's apparently performing well. From what you said, it's more like "it'll scare the crap out of you but it doesn't actually have to be mounted flat."

Just to be clear, I mean flat as in a two-dimensional plane with no bending or warping. I don't mean plumb or level or anything else about orientation.
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OP | Post 25 made on Saturday January 7, 2017 at 16:41
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On January 6, 2017 at 11:22, Mogul said...
I honestly do not understand the concern over the "thickness" of a TV. They've gotten so thin that they do not FUNCTION as well as older displays in some ways. Every ultra-thin OLED or LCD I've delivered lately has "waves" in it if you look across its width from the side, even though packaging and television are pristine...WTF?

Is there really a critical mass of people craving 1.2mm thick 75" screens out there...? Or is this just [largely Asian] designers trying to one-up each other...?

Looking through this thread today, this made me think about conversations we have had in the shop about stupidly thin TVs. The TVs are thin, but then by the time you put them on a mount that has enough rough to just get power cords plugged in, cables connected, and HDMI extenders hidden, the thin tv is actually 3" to 4" off the wall. Especially given the limited bolt options packaged in mounts and that you usually have to use the longer bolts with spacers.

Then, I thought about, I don't remember the last time I used a flat mount. We always use a tilt mount to improve the viewing angle and help with any glare. i really wonder how great the viewing is on this wall paper tv.
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Post 26 made on Saturday January 7, 2017 at 18:36
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I just want an 8 foot one i can put on the side of my van. And with a cam to watch all the wrecks.
Post 27 made on Saturday January 7, 2017 at 22:27
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I think you guys need to get friendly with your local glass maker. Because y'all know you're gonna have that client who wants this wallpaper tv mounted on a arm. And to make it look perfect... slap it on a glass. Or some kind of metal.

KOT
Post 28 made on Sunday January 8, 2017 at 10:30
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On January 6, 2017 at 10:12, Fins said...
I understand the need for the media player with a tv like this. You have to have somewhere for connections and speakers to go. But, at the very least, figure out how to make the connecting cable safe to run in the wall, and make it long enough, or customizable, for a real install.

I think it is a matter of perspective. Like davet pointed out, it has speakers and so it is more of a soundbar than a media player. So if it is used that way the shape of it makes sense and the placerment should be "stuck" to the TV. So I don't see it as an issue. BUT as custom installers I agree with you that it is mostly useless until a "media player" option is available and then fireproofined cable and a different shape would be needed.
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Post 29 made on Sunday January 8, 2017 at 10:42
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On 1483719737, Mogul said...
Is there really a critical mass of people craving 1.2mm thick 75" screens out there...? Or is this just [largely Asian] designers trying to one-up each other...?

a bit of both. the "mine is 1.1 mm and yours is 1.5 mm is bragging rights. But let's face it, I would not mind a world where I can roll up that TV and go to the clients and install it like a projector screen without needing to run cables to the ceiling for a projector.
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Post 30 made on Sunday January 8, 2017 at 10:53
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There are a number of short throw projectors at CES. Brightness and contrast suffer a bit, but installation is simple -- requiring only a small shelf.
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