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Issues with new Samsung televisions and auto play on Sonos
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Post 1 made on Thursday January 5, 2017 at 12:11
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So, it used to be possible to take an analog output from the back of the TV and run it to the line in on a Sonos amp. When you turn the television on it was auto play through the speakers. Recently, the higher end Samsung televisions don't seem to have an analog output. So I used a digital to analog converter, but discovered the optical output seems to be on all the time. So if you put Sonos in the auto mode, it is always sensing TV audio.

Also, the TV volume didn't seem to be variable for the optical out on the last one I tried, so it made controlling the volume on a Sonos amp impossible except with the app.

Has anybody figured out how to auto play with newer Samsung televisions?
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Post 2 made on Thursday January 5, 2017 at 12:17
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On January 5, 2017 at 12:11, tomciara said...
So, it used to be possible to take an analog output from the back of the TV and run it to the line in on a Sonos amp. When you turn the television on it was auto play through the speakers. Recently, the higher end Samsung televisions don't seem to have an analog output. So I used a digital to analog converter, but discovered the optical output seems to be on all the time. So if you put Sonos in the auto mode, it is always sensing TV audio.

Has anybody figured out how to auto play with newer Samsung televisions?

Yes, sell the Samsung and buy a Sony. I hate Samsung TVs
Post 3 made on Thursday January 5, 2017 at 13:04
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If your using something other than a Playbar, your out of luck on this one.
OP | Post 4 made on Thursday January 5, 2017 at 14:09
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On January 5, 2017 at 12:17, goldenzrule said...
Yes, sell the Samsung and buy a Sony. I hate Samsung TVs

So other than hate, are you saying the Sony you use still has analog out? Which series are you using? Appreciate the recommendation.
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Post 5 made on Thursday January 5, 2017 at 14:15
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Most XBR's have analog headphone jacks
Post 6 made on Thursday January 5, 2017 at 17:36
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Yeah, XBR series that I have used have all had an analog output, not that I use them that often but they are there. I really only use the XBR series with the seldom exception of a small TV in an office or a kids room, but even then I try to push the client up to XBR. Only thing I HATE about them now is the external power supply, which is another reason that an engineer should be dragged out back and, well, you know.
Post 7 made on Thursday January 5, 2017 at 19:14
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A harmony remotewill turn on the line in input on a connect amp via ip and control the volume via ip.
OP | Post 8 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 12:52
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Would Total Control also do this RELIABLY?
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Post 9 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 13:01
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On January 6, 2017 at 12:52, tomciara said...
Would Total Control also do this RELIABLY?

I have been fighting a system in which tc sets two play:1s to group with a Playbar. The clients wants to be ablento control them individually rather than use them as rears. His hearing isnt great so he starts watchijg tv, it groups the play:1s, and then i have volume up and down buttons for each speaker on the screen. It seems to work fairly well, but he always has some gremlin going on in the system. Not sure if all its related to Sonos or not.
Post 10 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 20:14
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Turn off quick start on the tv
Post 11 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 21:28
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On January 6, 2017 at 20:14, gbrown91 said...
Turn off quick start on the tv

The hate will turn out to be pretty ridiculous if this is the answer. This is why there's an F in RTFM.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 12 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 21:54
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I posted about this a while ago.

I was able to fix this issue by turning off CEC in the Samsung. Hope this works for you too! It's definitely a WTF scenario if it works for you too.

[Link: remotecentral.com]


Oh, now I see you commented on this very thread. Maybe that did not fix the issue in your case.
OP | Post 13 made on Friday January 6, 2017 at 23:45
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This is a related and fairly important question. If the optical output could be made to work when it is supposed to, does the TV volume up and down change the volume coming out of the optical?

Currently, my one project requires TV volume to be adjusted with the Sonos app. Not ideal. With an analog headphone output, I would not have this problem. But if the optical output were variable, new options open up.
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Post 14 made on Saturday January 7, 2017 at 01:34
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On January 6, 2017 at 23:45, tomciara said...
This is a related and fairly important question. If the optical output could be made to work when it is supposed to, does the TV volume up and down change the volume coming out of the optical?

Currently, my one project requires TV volume to be adjusted with the Sonos app. Not ideal. With an analog headphone output, I would not have this problem. But if the optical output were variable, new options open up.

Nope, the optical will stay fixed. Turning off CEC would only fix the issue of the optical line staying on when the TV is in standby unfortunately. Analog headphone out would be ideal.


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