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Suffering from burnout.... Ideas?
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Post 16 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 20:26
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On January 2, 2017 at 16:52, goldenzrule said...
Mac, thats nice in a perfect world, but as I mentioned setting expectations does not work with everyone. You can flat out tell someone DO NOT CALL AFTER 7:00 and they will still call you after 7:00, and after 8, and after 9 and so on. Maybe its different as a small business owner, but when you are the only person responsible for starting your business, building your business, maintaining and running your business, then the 9:00 profane laced tirade in voicemail from someone about something as miniscule as DTV sound cutting out, it gets to you. Maybe not at first, but after years of dealing with the same kind of crap it absolutely does. I don't care what you say, what your contracts say, it does not matter. Some people WILL overstep the boundaries set forth. It is inevitable.

A profanity-laced tirade is a good reason to fire someone, paying client, or not. It should at least justify a strong warning that it WON'T be happening again, for ANY reason.

Call it 'boundaries' if you want, I call it 'lack of decency'.
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Post 17 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 20:45
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Going to be 26 years this year; 16 of those years with my own business. I burned out a long time ago, I just don't know how to do anything else.
PLUS! Once you have been your own boss for a few years, good luck trying to get a job doing anything after that = unhireable.
Post 18 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 20:46
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If you feel burned out by all of the various demands of the business, the ridiculous calls and messages from clients and the tasks that are required but you're not thrilled by/interested in, it's probably time to define what you want to do, what you want to be and what you're willing to put up with. It may also be time to look at what you charge for and what you let slide but would probably help your bottom line greatly. In my case, I'm also dealing with people who decide to stop communicating and then responding as if no time has passed, which causes the project to be delayed and they seem to think people are sitting around with nothing to do, waiting for them to call.

My plan for the next few weeks-

-Define what kinds and brands of equipment I want to sell and the services I want to provide
-Define what I want to add to the mix
-Take a hard look at my rates and make any needed changes
-Look into hiring a helper and determine whether I can justify it, financially
-Decide how much longer I want to do this- I started selling audio in early-'78 and I'm REALLY tired of the musical chair company ownership, lack of manufacturer support, HDMI, the BS they trot out so they can try to make up for lagging sales due to the previous model years' crap, HDMI, people buying into the marketing of WiFi as the 'cure for all of your problems", HDMI,......did I mention I don't like HDMI?
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Post 19 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 20:53
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On January 2, 2017 at 20:46, highfigh said...
If you feel burned out by all of the various demands of the business, the ridiculous calls and messages from clients and the tasks that are required but you're not thrilled by/interested in, it's probably time to define what you want to do, what you want to be and what you're willing to put up with. It may also be time to look at what you charge for and what you let slide but would probably help your bottom line greatly. In my case, I'm also dealing with people who decide to stop communicating and then responding as if no time has passed, which causes the project to be delayed and they seem to think people are sitting around with nothing to do, waiting for them to call.

My plan for the next few weeks-

-Define what kinds and brands of equipment I want to sell and the services I want to provide
-Define what I want to add to the mix
-Take a hard look at my rates and make any needed changes
-Look into hiring a helper and determine whether I can justify it, financially
-Decide how much longer I want to do this- I started selling audio in early-'78 and I'm REALLY tired of the musical chair company ownership, lack of manufacturer support, HDMI, the BS they trot out so they can try to make up for lagging sales due to the previous model years' crap, HDMI, people buying into the marketing of WiFi as the 'cure for all of your problems", HDMI,......did I mention I don't like HDMI?

You forgot to mention HDMI
Post 20 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 21:04
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On January 2, 2017 at 20:45, Brad Humphrey said...
Going to be 26 years this year; 16 of those years with my own business. I burned out a long time ago, I just don't know how to do anything else.
PLUS! Once you have been your own boss for a few years, good luck trying to get a job doing anything after that = unhireable.

I started selling stereo equipment and got into car audio almost immediately- that was a bit of a slow start because I really didn't know much about electricity or electronics at the time but I learned. I left 12V in early '97 and went into business for myself, but an offer to work for a boat dealer sidetracked me until '01, when my dad passed and I had to handle the estate, get the house ready to sell, etc. I got back into this in '03 and have done it full-time since then. Fortunately, I have a friend who like to buy and sell boats, so I work on those when needed and since he owns an upholstery shop, I get my stuff done free and it gets me out on the water. I keep telling him that soon, I'll be half owner of his latest boat, but he doesn't seem to hear that.

A business owner is only un-hireable if they make it obvious that they don't want to take direction from someone else. I see it as a way to have less responsibility thrust upon me (in the event that it happens)- if something bad occurs and they expect a former business owner to handle or prevent it, they should have made said former business owner a manager, not just "one of the other employee".

One of my biggest questions about leaving the business is "What do I do with my clients?". These aren't usually "one and done" jobs, most involve later additions upgrades that can take months to finish- I have one where I frequently do something at their main house, every year. They're also directly responsible for most of the referral business I have had.

Once I'm done with this, I plan to have a few hobbies that pay me for what I do. That way, I don't have to do any one thing all of the time.

One thing is sure- I won't live here much longer.

And I want a vintage car or pickup. Might slap on of these in it- not too drastic, it's not common in cars and it's injected, so it's easy to service.

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Post 21 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 21:05
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On January 2, 2017 at 20:53, goldenzrule said...
You forgot to mention HDMI

Dammit! I knew I forgot something.
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OP | Post 22 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 21:05
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Tonights angry phone call.

Netflix stopped working on the Blu-ray player in the family room (Lockup prone cheapie Sony BRD player he insisted on instead of my usual Appletv).

I cannot review recorded video from my cameras on my phone... I have told this guy about a dozen times that his iphone isn't really the best tool for doing this and refer to his computer....Not listening.

I cannot access the cameras from my Ipad..... He doesn't remember his Itunes login info.... Went over this last time with him, he has to contact his personal assistant to retrieve that info. I do not have his itunes login info, he changed the password since we set his stuff up last year.

He is headed back out of town tomorrow, wants this fixed before he leaves, is somewhat upset that I am not working today.

FML......
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OP | Post 23 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 21:18
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On January 2, 2017 at 16:42, Mac Burks (39) said...
What if you just let the phone call go to voicemail...and then respond to it the next day during normal business hours?

Seems like most of your frustration is that you expect all the clients to behave in a certain way...yet you do nothing to train them. It's like expecting a puppy to know not to pee in the house.

Save for the select clients that I like, I usually do. I almost never answer my phone for unknown callers outside of business hours.
I am pretty diligent about creating contacts for clients in my phone (including the offending NYE caller), he called from a not previously known number. Been dealing with a recent death in my family and I have a proposal/back and forth where a potential client's "people" have been calling me from several different numbers.

On many of my jobs I own the network. All of my distro systems have remote reset capabilities. Problems are usually the smaller, decentralized projects and many times are stupid things that are almost totally out of my control.
I have a standard speech I give clients about streaming media reliability but they don't care.

Lot of them out there are "Try it once, if it doesn't work then pick up the phone and complain" types. They want no interaction with their system beyond the remote.
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Post 24 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 21:36
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On January 2, 2017 at 13:49, Richie Rich said...
Been in this industry for ~17 years now, started as a satellite monkey, now a licensed home automation contractor/ business owner.

It seems like the march of technology and the expectations that people have of it is sucking all the enthusiasm for the industry out of me.

Back in the day, service requests were usually one of two things, customer error or equipment failure. Replace part, re-explain to client, not hear from them for a few more months/years.

Now, 99% of my service requests are network/feature related. IP devices losing connectivity, streaming issues and now, lots of IP control related intermittent failures. You know, the stuff that we don't have complete control over no matter how much we own the network.

Another issue, the lack of decorum that people have. The other night I got a phone call from a client, from a number that wasn't in my contacts list for him at 9:45pm. Who in their right mind thinks it is acceptable to call somebody at that hour for a minor issue?
The kicker..... I didn't even install his system, I did the programming and it had been up and 100% functional for several months.
I have had clients text me at 1am, I have also had them text me at 5am.

Had a guy call me on Christmas eve and get angry with me because his fireplaces were installed the day before and he was upset that he was going to have to use the OEM fireplace remote to turn them on/off over the holidays. Nobody bothered to schedule or let me know dude was going to install that day.
WTF people?

Barring something being on fire, there is no way I would contact someone who had worked on my home at that hour.

Am I alone in feeling this growing frustration with the industry (and clients) or am I just becoming a grumpy old(er) man?

For years I had a passion and enthusiasm for this industry, the last couple of years have gone a long way to beat that out of me. I swore I would never become "that contractor" that straight up doesn't give a crap, yet I feel I am becoming that guy.

I was only in "the game" for a short while. While I LOVED toying with new electronics on someone else's dime and programming commandfusion I quickly came to the realization that I was going to be married to each and every job for-f'n-ever (per customer expectation) very quickly. After texts/calls at all hours, manufacturer fibs about features (that port will work in the next firmware update we promise), equipment failure, and user error annnnnd I'm out.
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Post 25 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 21:36
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Do you not have an office line? One that they can call into, receive a brief message about your operating/service hours and then leave a message? Next business day at 8 am or whatever it may be, you check your messages, not a minute before. As noted by many, there are no AV emergencies. Then, change your cell number...all current and future clients get the office number, not your cell number. If you can't or don't want to be reached 24/7 by everyone, make it such that they can't.
Post 26 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 21:56
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On January 2, 2017 at 21:05, Richie Rich said...
Tonights angry phone call.

Netflix stopped working on the Blu-ray player in the family room (Lockup prone cheapie Sony BRD player he insisted on instead of my usual Appletv).

I cannot review recorded video from my cameras on my phone... I have told this guy about a dozen times that his iphone isn't really the best tool for doing this and refer to his computer....Not listening.

These are both examples of letting the client do your job for you. When they ask for netflix you tell them they need AppleTV. If they say no then they are on their own with the BD player app. Let them know that you dont recommend or support Netflix without an AppleTV.

If the iPhone app is buggy just say it up front and remind them each time. "Hey i sold you a camera system that works with your computer...the app is an unsupported bonus. Unsupported because it sucks". Now if the client specifically wanted to view cameras on the iPhone then you introduce him to a more expensive camera system that has a stable iPad app.

I cannot access the cameras from my Ipad..... He doesn't remember his Itunes login info.... Went over this last time with him, he has to contact his personal assistant to retrieve that info. I do not have his itunes login info, he changed the password since we set his stuff up last year.

Perfect example of a phone call that should have went straight to voicemail.

He is headed back out of town tomorrow, wants this fixed before he leaves, is somewhat upset that I am not working today.

FML......

What exactly can you fix here? You cant fix his forgetfulness anymore than you can forget a crappy BD player netflix app or buggy iOS app for a camera system. You really need to send him an invoice for the "forgot my iTunes info" and then have the heart to heart about his needing to buy a new AppleTV and Camera System.
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Post 27 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 21:59
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Tricks to spark passion again:

1) Think about going to work somewhere else. I would make a horrible employee for someone. Actually, I would make a great employee until I decided I needed to go bass fishing, the surf is 15'+ and I need to go in it, the couch feels really good on a cold day, etc. Being your own boss has the downsides you mentioned earlier AND the benefits.

2) Realize that there are tumors in any job.

3) Mix it up: Change your schedule to a 4 day workweek. Take an MMA class. Go to REI for hiking seminars. Sometimes these little tweaks can infuse passion back into your life which can pass along to your job.

4) Realize who needs you: I have plenty of days that I'd love to go do anything but work but I think about the employees that rely on me doing my job so they can support their lives and families. I then dutifully get in the car and get to the day.

These aren't a panacea and sometimes a change is due. However, these are just a few of the things I do that I find helpful when I share your sentiments.
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Post 28 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 22:06
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I just wanted to add this...I have been in or around this business since i was 12. I have grown up with it. I remember when we visited 2-3 clients a day doing new...one day...6 figure installs and a handful of service calls on the way back. I have done every type of install you can think of. I have some programming under my belt. I have been in crawl spaces. I have been on the top of skyscapers while its snowing and on yachts during storms out at sea. I have seen it all...or most of it. I have been in every situation that you guys post about.

Every couple of months or so someone posts the same thing about being burnt out and every single time these are the answers...

#1.Bill for your time.
#2.Service contracts.
#2.Have a business line. Don't answer calls outside of business hours.
#3.Don't let the clients budget cause you to design/sell/install/support a wonky system. The only proper way to shave money off the invoice is to remove rooms/features. Using cheaper speakers to save money in zones where they say "its just for background music" is how you end up replacing blown speakers every week. Not using a rack to save money is how you end up wasting hours trying to trim out a crappy cabinet where the sides or bowing out and shelves are falling off crappy plastic pins.

I am not a business owner but i am the lead tech for the same company since the 90's. I get those midnight phone calls texts emails etc. They used to drive me crazy too...until i quit answering them.
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OP | Post 29 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 22:12
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On January 2, 2017 at 21:56, Mac Burks (39) said...
These are both examples of letting the client do your job for you. When they ask for netflix you tell them they need AppleTV. If they say no then they are on their own with the BD player app. Let them know that you dont recommend or support Netflix without an AppleTV.

If the iPhone app is buggy just say it up front and remind them each time. "Hey i sold you a camera system that works with your computer...the app is an unsupported bonus. Unsupported because it sucks". Now if the client specifically wanted to view cameras on the iPhone then you introduce him to a more expensive camera system that has a stable iPad app.

Perfect example of a phone call that should have went straight to voicemail.

What exactly can you fix here? You cant fix his forgetfulness anymore than you can forget a crappy BD player netflix app or buggy iOS app for a camera system. You really need to send him an invoice for the "forgot my iTunes info" and then have the heart to heart about his needing to buy a new AppleTV and Camera System.

Luckily this wasn't a call, it was an email. At least he has the courtesy to do that (even if he expected that I would be working on a holiday).

Camera live view is fine on the IOS app (when the aforementioned client can remember his login info after buying a new phone), it just doesn't excel at reviewing recorded content. The browser (or for larger jobs a dedicated monitor) does just fine.

I provided the BRD player since he wanted something cheap. He didn't have Netflix at the time, mostly wanted the BRD players so he could watch his, umm, adul.....aw hell, he wanted them so he could watch porn dvds. He discovered the joy of netflix after wearing watching "dirty latina housekeepers #6" for the 50th time.

Did I mention he is in his 70s....hahahaha.

Any one of these clients and client issues taken individually wouldn't really even register on my radar. It just seems that ever since 2008, attitudes towards our industry have taken a turn for the worse. More demands, more lack of reality, more condesention and neediness (probably not really a word but whatever).

And in the last few months, normally a time where things quiet down a bit for a little while, all hell has broken loose, rolled downhill and seemingly landed on my head.

Super over it...
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Post 30 made on Monday January 2, 2017 at 23:04
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On January 2, 2017 at 21:04, highfigh said...

And I want a vintage car or pickup. Might slap on of these in it- not too drastic, it's not common in cars and it's injected, so it's easy to service.


I'm well versed in the marine and auto world.

I've been upgrading both from 1984 to current to make them faster,handle better,and leap tall mountains in a single bound!!

Trust me on this.
Installing a marine engine into a car or vice versa is anything but simple!

ESPECIALLY with the modern,electronically controlled versions!

You would save thousands of dollars and a TON man hours by just getting a GM LS series motor and controller from Pace or even GM.

I've installed a couple of these in retro mods and was seriously impressed!

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When I grow up,that's what I should be doing for a living!

I'm not sure why I've spent my entire life in this industry while doing this after hours......
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