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Crestron kills NSP-1
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Post 1 made on Wednesday December 21, 2016 at 13:33
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SO I was in the middle of quoting a job with an NSP-1 when I came across that Crestron has it listed as "limited Supply" on their website.

I know some people have said they have had issues with the NSP-1 but we have had pretty good luck with it.

I am abandoning the NSP-1 in the quote but would like some feedback as to what others are using for streaming/Airplay? I know the Autonomics Mirage is an option (we aren't a dealer yet, working on becoming one). Sonos is coming but from what I have read their Crestron integration still needs some tweaking.

We need something that has two-way communication with Crestron and offers streaming services as well as Airplay. If you could please provide make model and MSRP for what you are using it would be much appreciated.
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Post 2 made on Wednesday December 21, 2016 at 14:26
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I just had to deal with one of these today. It was a last minute "by the way can you check this before you go" item. Client still uses ipod classics (has dozens of them for houses/boats/cars/planes etc that he keeps synced with all the same content). It was barely working then not at all like it locked up. I tried power cycling it and a voodoo prayer and it still didn't work.

After consulting with our programmer i did a firmware update and now its working without any issues.

My uneducated guess is that people with problems are updating the firmware on the device frequently but not the NSP-1.
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Post 3 made on Wednesday December 21, 2016 at 14:43
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Killing the NSP-1 was part of the deal with Sonos to get "full" integration on the new 60 series TPs.

Have been installing and controlling Sonos on Crestron for a couple months now. The modules came out in Oct.

Airplay we use Airport express.
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Post 4 made on Wednesday December 21, 2016 at 14:45
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wow, what a slow painful death!!!!
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Post 5 made on Wednesday December 21, 2016 at 15:09
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I have to say that the NSP-1 with updated firmware works really well.

We had a client this past summer that did not want Sonos.  Knew all about it but didn't want it.  We did an NSP-1 instead and they use the heck out of it.

Bummer it never got Pandora, but they just Airplay Pandora to it from an iPhone or iPad.
Post 6 made on Wednesday December 21, 2016 at 19:57
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Autonomic MMS-1e was designed as a drop-in replacement for the NSP-1. Other than no PoE power option, that is. But you should be able to (I hear) pull out an NSP , fire up the MMS-1e with sams IP ID, and have it work without changing the program.
Post 7 made on Wednesday December 21, 2016 at 20:24
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When I worked for a crestron dealer. All the jobs got an autonomics.

When we were upgrading old crestnet jobs it was a little slow to load on the touchscreens.

Newer systems it worked really well. The only problem we had was the programmer made a mistake programming it. Once we found his programming mistake. It was flawless.

Maybe they changed this by now but we saw a difference between the mms 5 and mms 2. The mms5 had a better processor and was faster to react to the touchscreens.
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Post 8 made on Wednesday December 21, 2016 at 21:53
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We've used the MMS-2 and MMS-5 on every project. It's interesting because when we did AMX we basically abandoned the MMS because the AMX module is garbage. The MMS/Crestron integration is bulletproof. It's a native Crestron device that use the Media Player Smart Graphic. Kind of a no-brainer. The MMS-1e is exciting because now we can have true independent sources per user with independent streaming service accounts.

The Sonos is a good alternative if your client only uses streaming services and their listening habits allow them to fit their music selection into 20 favorites.
OP | Post 9 made on Thursday December 22, 2016 at 08:53
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On December 21, 2016 at 14:43, kgossen said...
Killing the NSP-1 was part of the deal with Sonos to get "full" integration on the new 60 series TPs.

Have been installing and controlling Sonos on Crestron for a couple months now. The modules came out in Oct.

Yeah I know when it came out. I haven't had a chance to look into the integration but from what I have seen, unless you are installing the X60 TP then you get basic integration with Sonos.
Airplay we use Airport express.

We have done this before with other customers and they enjoy it, but being able to offer control of the device that is airplayed is an easier selling feature
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Post 10 made on Thursday December 22, 2016 at 11:54
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On December 22, 2016 at 08:53, SWOInstaller said...
Yeah I know when it came out. I haven't had a chance to look into the integration but from what I have seen, unless you are installing the X60 TP then you get basic integration with Sonos.

I don't have a single customer that is ever going to stand in front of a TP and make playlists and such.


We have done this before with other customers and they enjoy it, but being able to offer control of the device that is airplayed is an easier selling feature

The only thing you can do with the TP is next, previous and pause. Not really a ton of control.
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Post 11 made on Friday December 23, 2016 at 14:48
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I saw that too.

Thought it was odd that they discontinued it. Early units were a tad problematic, they got more stable as time went on.

Mostly just used them as a native Crestron Airplay device. Our normal house audio spec is a CENTRAK with AM/FM/XM card(s) and a Audionet card and an NSP to mostly serve as an airplay device. We also will do a dedicated cable/sat box for music on client request.
I hope the TRAK isn't next on the chopping block. XM via a non streaming source is almost always a winner for always accessible music with the fewest issues.
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