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Should this raise a red flag?
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Post 16 made on Monday December 5, 2016 at 16:47
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On December 5, 2016 at 11:59, Ernie Gilman said...
Sorry, but a pet peeve here:
HONE means sharpen. A barber who shaves with a straight razor will make the last few steps of sharpening by drawing the razor across a hone or a leather honing strap.
I can see how this meaning might be associated with the idea of setting a price, but it means sharpen, not arrive at.

HOME means come to the exact right position, as in coming home. Homing pigeons home in on a location. They are not honing pigeons, sharpening their claws in the barber shop....

So these jerks home in on Bose.

Just............
Post 17 made on Monday December 5, 2016 at 17:13
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On December 5, 2016 at 13:05, tomciara said...
So your probaly liking the Bose for it's discreet commands to.

PROBALY no one has caught how discreetly you slipped that in, and likely still won't for some other reson..... :-)
Post 18 made on Monday December 5, 2016 at 17:22
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On December 5, 2016 at 17:13, Trunk-Slammer -Supreme said...
PROBALY no one has caught how discreetly you slipped that in, and likely still won't for some other reson..... :-)

Oh I noticed. Wanted to see if Sheldon Cooper noticed.
Post 19 made on Monday December 5, 2016 at 18:48
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On December 5, 2016 at 14:59, King of typos said...
They'll probably send it.

I too almost fell for a scam last month. It was for renting a room out at my house. This girl sent me a check for the rent and such. After depositing it, she exposed her true colors... "can you wire $1,100 of the check to my movers?" Instant red flag.

I have been trying to sell totem speakers for a while now. Twice i have been contacted from someone using the same/similar scam. "I will send you a check for $XXX over the cost so that you can pay the shippers directly".

With this version of the scam i pack my speakers up and pay for shipping myself. When the check bounces i am out the speakers and what it cost to ship them.
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Post 20 made on Tuesday December 6, 2016 at 13:55
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On December 5, 2016 at 11:59, Ernie Gilman said...
Sorry, but a pet peeve here:
HONE means sharpen. A barber who shaves with a straight razor will make the last few steps of sharpening by drawing the razor across a hone or a leather honing strap.
I can see how this meaning might be associated with the idea of setting a price, but it means sharpen, not arrive at.

HOME means come to the exact right position, as in coming home. Homing pigeons home in on a location. They are not honing pigeons, sharpening their claws in the barber shop....

So these jerks home in on Bose.

Erine....You're silly....and don't overthink this....

From McMillian Dictionary:

"hone in on something" : to give all your attention to something

So no...hone in is appropriate...
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Post 21 made on Tuesday December 6, 2016 at 14:23
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On December 6, 2016 at 13:55, jrainey said...
Erine....You're silly....and don't overthink this....

From McMillian Dictionary:

"hone in on something" : to give all your attention to something

So no...hone in is appropriate...

You can always find someone who has things wrong. I found at [Link: grammar.about.com]

Traditionally, a missile homes in (not hones in) on a target. The verb hone means "to sharpen." The verb home means "to move toward a goal" or "to be guided to a target." But some usage guides (see notes below) now recognize hone in on as an acceptable alternative to home in on.

Examples:
Much like a heat-seeking missile, a new kind of particle homes in on the blood vessels that nourish aggressive cancers, before unleashing a cell-destroying drug." (Ewen Callaway, New Scientist, July 2008)
"A fellow who has a funny bone can learn to hone his skills, but I don't think you can develop a funny bone: you either have it or you don't." (Carl Reiner)

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Home in, not hone in, is the correct phrase. In the 19th century, the metaphor referred to what homing pigeons do; by the early 20th century, it referred also to what aircraft and missiles do.

"And by the late 20th century, some writers had begun mistaking the phrase by using the wrong verb, hone (= to sharpen) instead of home."
(Bryan A. Garner, Garner's Modern American Usage. Oxford Univ. Press, 2009)

Mcmillan Dictionary is tacitly acknowledging that so many people who are ignorant of the correct term have used "hone" that we now have to recognize that it's understood to have the same sense as "home" in this context.

In our industry, A LOT of people referred to "RF" as "video" in the late 80s. That doesn't make it correct. Worse, using the wrong term impoverishes the language and makes for misunderstandings.

Today, people talk about HDMI over a single wire. Since HDMI connectors are defined as having 19 pins, this makes no sense. Sure, it's HDTV over one wire, but when you leave that out, you accept that you're not expressing yourself accurately and you make it harder for new people in the industry to understand what's being discussed.

Sorry if that was too serious.
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Post 22 made on Tuesday December 6, 2016 at 14:39
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On December 6, 2016 at 14:23, Ernie Gilman said...
You can always find someone who has things wrong. I found at
Sorry if that was too serious.

Not too serious at all.

I like this one:

[Link: grammarist.com]

Which seems to indicate that both are appropriate and since I like mine more, I like to think you are just wrong.
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Post 23 made on Tuesday December 6, 2016 at 15:14
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It clearly indicates that the original term was home and that hone, through use, must be included in the dictionary. After all, the dictionary's job is to define terms in use, not to decide whether they are correct or not.

After all, here's a classic's definition from Merriam-Webster:
Definition of ain't
1: am not : are not : is not
2: have not : has not

This is still considered wrong in most discussions of grammar and usage, but there it is in a dictionary!
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Post 24 made on Tuesday December 6, 2016 at 15:16
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I rarely use this phrase, but the last few posts warrants it...



OMG!!!

KOT 
Post 25 made on Tuesday December 6, 2016 at 15:25
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I have always heard it/read it as "hone in on". Narrowing the area. Making it easier to accurately pin point the target/center.
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Post 26 made on Tuesday December 6, 2016 at 15:37
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On December 6, 2016 at 15:16, King of typos said...
I rarely use this phrase, but the last few posts warrants it...

OMG!!!

KOT 

Get used to saying that as long as Ernie continues to frequent the site.
Post 27 made on Tuesday December 6, 2016 at 17:40
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You know what's funny? I just received a notification from Wired online magazine, the headline?

"What IMB Watson has is a particular set of skills---skills it continues to hone, skills that make it a nightmare for cybercrimals."

KOT
Post 28 made on Wednesday December 7, 2016 at 20:40
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So, I have a guy who wants to pay me for an install labor only via cc over phone. He wants to pay tonight just to make sure he can be on my schedule next week.

Problem is that he is asking for things like my CC processing company, he has to get bank approval, etc, etc.

Oh, and he wants this install in a modular home. That I can't go look at so he wants a high estimate.
Post 29 made on Wednesday December 7, 2016 at 21:11
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On December 6, 2016 at 17:40, King of typos said...
You know what's funny? I just received a notification from Wired online magazine, the headline?

"What IMB Watson has is a particular set of skills---skills it continues to hone, skills that make it a nightmare for cybercrimals."

KOT

And they used the word completely correctly.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 30 made on Thursday December 8, 2016 at 01:43
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On December 7, 2016 at 20:40, AVXpressions said...
So, I have a guy who wants to pay me for an install labor only via cc over phone. He wants to pay tonight just to make sure he can be on my schedule next week.

Problem is that he is asking for things like my CC processing company, he has to get bank approval, etc, etc.

Oh, and he wants this install in a modular home. That I can't go look at so he wants a high estimate.

I hope you don't...
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
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