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Which Yamaha receivers allow video with different audio?
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Post 1 made on Sunday November 27, 2016 at 20:31
kwkshift
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Does anyone know what receivers allow that feature? My customer wants to watch sports but select the turntable/Sonos/ cd's for audio source at will.

Thanks.
Post 2 made on Sunday November 27, 2016 at 20:35
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I haven't found where I could use the same video feed with multiple inputs. It's more like the video input drives everything, and you can pair other audio inputs to it.
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Post 3 made on Sunday November 27, 2016 at 20:40
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It would seem when AVRs started to have HDMI. The ability to switch audio and video separately went away.

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Post 4 made on Sunday November 27, 2016 at 20:48
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I think you can assign video to the streaming services, but that's all.
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Post 5 made on Sunday November 27, 2016 at 20:52
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Is this an existing installation? If so, which model Yamaha receiver are we using? Which TV model?
Post 6 made on Sunday November 27, 2016 at 21:03
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Make a scene - not straightforward but lets you have hdmi video of a source and music.
Post 7 made on Sunday November 27, 2016 at 21:11
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This is contorted and I don't have anything handy in order to try, but one possibility is to loop a Zone2 or Zone3 analog output back to an analog input and reassign audio for the HDMI input to the looped back analog input. This can be done through the receiver's setup web interface or a control system. Offhand I don't recall if an RTI or URC driver can get down to this level.

Another approach would be to split the HDMI and make two connections to the receiver -- one using the regular HDMI audio and the other using my loop back scheme.
Post 8 made on Sunday November 27, 2016 at 21:43
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On November 27, 2016 at 20:40, King of typos said...
It would seem when AVRs started to have HDMI. The ability to switch audio and video separately went away.

KOT

Sony es receivers make this easy
OP | Post 9 made on Sunday November 27, 2016 at 21:46
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On November 27, 2016 at 20:52, buzz said...
Is this an existing installation? If so, which model Yamaha receiver are we using? Which TV model?

Existing system, but currently has an old a Denon avr4805. That receiver has that feature, but only with component, not HDMI.
Post 10 made on Sunday November 27, 2016 at 22:08
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On November 27, 2016 at 20:48, Fins said...
I think you can assign video to the streaming services, but that's all.

Was wondering if this can be done with Music Cast on Aventage receivers (specifically a RX-A660). Put one in on a job and later client asked about tv/music simultaneously
OP | Post 11 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 10:37
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A Denon unit would be my second choice. I installed a AVR-X3000 (?) a couple years ago that had this feature, I thought. ??

Edit: I looked through the Denon's and they can do it...sort of. They only give you the choice of the Phono, USB and FM Tuner/HD Radio. They call it "Video Select".

I was on Yamaha's chat and they said that what I want can be done only with the 2060 and 3060 and only once registering them with the Scenes setup for custom Scenes # 5-12.

I'll have to read through the manual to see how easy it is to use for the customer.

Last edited by kwkshift on November 28, 2016 13:01.
Post 12 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 23:48
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On November 27, 2016 at 21:43, ichbinbose said...
Sony es receivers make this easy

Onkyo and Integra can do this easily as well.

Annoying that Denon and Yamaha havent made it easier
Post 13 made on Tuesday November 29, 2016 at 00:11
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It's simple, play the audio you'd like, then choose the video input you'd like to play on the display.
Saving it as a scene is possible - but then it means every time you use that source (say USB) it will default to that video source... which is obviously not always ideal.
One the RXA1060 / 2060 / 3060 you can use the advanced Scene selection option to fix this... below this, it's a little trickier to automate. However it IS possible for a relatively savvy consumer to use the option button themselves.


...those customers are rare though.
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OP | Post 14 made on Tuesday November 29, 2016 at 09:30
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On November 29, 2016 at 00:11, dunnersfella said...
It's simple, play the audio you'd like, then choose the video input you'd like to play on the display.
Saving it as a scene is possible - but then it means every time you use that source (say USB) it will default to that video source... which is obviously not always ideal.
One the RXA1060 / 2060 / 3060 you can use the advanced Scene selection option to fix this... below this, it's a little trickier to automate. However it IS possible for a relatively savvy consumer to use the option button themselves.

...those customers are rare though.

Obviously we want to have this feature as an option to the normal activities, such as just watching Directv. I'll probably put some buttons on a screen where he can select one of these scenes, and at will, switch the audio back to the Directv audio/video that would have been configured in the initial activity launch macro.
Post 15 made on Tuesday November 29, 2016 at 09:40
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Yamaha can't do it.. Denon can kind of do it but in a funky way. You have to select your audio source first then do a "video" select. If at any time you change audio sources you have to reselect your video.
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