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I think Lowe's is pulling a skeeezy scam here!
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Post 16 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 01:52
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I went into Lowes last Saturday to buy the materials to add another 120 ft to my privacy fence.

They had a supply of the $19.99 ladders on hand.

I checked one out and it felt pretty solid with my 200 lbs on it.

A little more solid than my employer supplied 300 lb rated ladder but it has a lot of miles on it so it's not really a fair comparison.

It was tempting to pick one up but I already have 3 four footers at home and didn't really need another!
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OP | Post 17 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 03:13
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On November 27, 2016 at 22:18, goldenzrule said...
Don't you all already have ladders? How do you conduct business? I have more ladders than I know what to do with them.

Ah. So you're saying you're an idiot about ladders. Why are you criticizing me? I definitely DON'T have more ladders than I know what to do with.

Is that the kind of response you're asking for?

Yes, I work. I always carry an 8 foot ladder, a six foot ladder, a fold-up table (I'm done with working from all the parts on the floor!), for the last ten days my 20 foot extension ladder, and I thought it would be nice to have a four foot ladder.

Why would the number of ladders that you have influence the number of ladders I need and have, especially if you bought more than you really need?
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Post 18 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 06:56
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On November 27, 2016 at 22:18, goldenzrule said...
Don't you all already have ladders? How do you conduct business? I have more ladders than I know what to do with.

You assume he has none and you have too many. I would delete your reply my friend.
And for the OP. I don't take part in black Friday. And Lowes is under no obligation to sell the green ladder.
Post 19 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 07:19
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The green one is on sale now. Nice one! You made Lowe's lose money and now, they're gonna go out of business! You bastige!

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Post 20 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 07:22
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On November 28, 2016 at 06:56, thecapnredfish said...
You assume he has none and you have too many. I would delete your reply my friend.
And for the OP. I don't take part in black Friday. And Lowes is under no obligation to sell the green ladder.

Why would I delete it? I seriously was questioning why anyone that has been in this business needs a ladder still? Who does not already have at least 1 4' ladder? Serious question. I keep a 4', 6' and 28' ladder on/in the van at all times. I cannot imagine doing this job without at minimum a 4 and 6 foot ladder on hand. I have a 2', 4', 6' as well for use at the house and backup, as well as a multi propose Warner (little Giant style) ladder that extends to as much as 22' that I throw on the van for any tweener jobs that what I have on the van won't cover.

So serious question, who that is in this industry does not already have all the ladders needed to cover the job. It is dangerous to use the incorrect size ladder for any particular job. I know someone that fell off a ladder trying to stretch, falling about 8' and landing on his back. Did some serious damage. He was luckily in a sense in thay he had a sheet rock saw in his pocket thato somehow didn't puncture him.
Post 21 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 07:37
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On November 28, 2016 at 03:13, Ernie Gilman said...
Ah. So you're saying you're an idiot about ladders. Why are you criticizing me? I definitely DON'T have more ladders than I know what to do with.

Is that the kind of response you're asking for?

Yes, I work. I always carry an 8 foot ladder, a six foot ladder, a fold-up table (I'm done with working from all the parts on the floor!), for the last ten days my 20 foot extension ladder, and I thought it would be nice to have a four foot ladder.

Why would the number of ladders that you have influence the number of ladders I need and have, especially if you bought more than you really need?

It wasn't an attack on you, or anyone. It was a serious question. I always thought 4 and 6 foot ladders were standard equipment of all CI's. Everyone here always talks about safety and the proper way to do stuff (rightfully so), so I assumed, incorrectly I guess, that everyone already had 4 footers. I guess that's not the case.
Post 22 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 08:06
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On November 28, 2016 at 07:37, goldenzrule said...
It wasn't an attack on you, or anyone. It was a serious question. I always thought 4 and 6 foot ladders were standard equipment of all CI's. Everyone here always talks about safety and the proper way to do stuff (rightfully so), so I assumed, incorrectly I guess, that everyone already had 4 footers. I guess that's not the case.

I can't think of anything a 4' ladder can do that a 6' can't, other than fit in a shorter space. If I needed to punch down in large structured wiring panels, I would have one- it's a good height for me to sit on the top while I do that. I really can't see a reason for a 2' ladder (other than using it as a stool)- I prefer to be able to lean into it, especially if I need to drill into concrete. Also, driving an Astro doesn't leave much space for other things if I have three ladders and I don't usually do much that's higher than my folding extension ladder won't reach. I took the ladder rack off when I got it and I don't want to keep ladders on top, especially during a Wisconsin Winter.
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Post 23 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 08:15
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On November 28, 2016 at 08:06, highfigh said...
I can't think of anything a 4' ladder can do that a 6' can't, other than fit in a shorter space. I really can't see a reason for a 2' ladder- I prefer to be able to lean into it, especially if I need to drill into concrete. Also, driving an Astro doesn't leave much space for other things if I have three ladders and I don't usually do much that's higher than my folding extension ladder won't reach. I took the ladder rack off when I got it and I don't want to keep ladders on top, especially during a Wisconsin Winter.

I certainly understand not wanting to keep the ladders on the outside. I had my 6' on top of my old econoline van and fully understand the winter aspect. We get hit hard enough here in CT. What I have in my NV is a roof mounted rack (interior) that allows the ladder to hang.

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I use the 4' ladder as much or more than the 6'. For one, if I have to work in a closet the 6' is too tall and I cannot get in. It's quicker and easier to carry around. It's great for TV hangs where you need a little extra height. A lot of the older homes I work in here have shorter ceiling, some being only around 8', and the 4' ladder works great when working on these again.

Lastly, the Astro is a great van. I had an awd version years ago and loved it, but I just cannot fit what I can in my NV. With the shelving I have, I have it pretty well organized and fit quite a bit. It would definitely be challenging to fit everything I now have back in the Astro.

Oh, forgot, the 2 ft ladder. It is more of a short step ladder. I don't use it much and no longer carry it on the truck. It was good for a quick boost up but I agree with you that its best to have something you can lean on when needed.
Post 24 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 08:18
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Also forgot to you on your other point. Sitting on top of the ladder. Yes that is another use, not just for wiring cans, but racks and other areas where you need a little extra height but will be there a while. I sometimes do it not due to fatigue, but to save my feet a bit of agony. It doesn't matter the kind of ladder I use anymore, they all hurt my feet if I stay on them too long, so its nice to have a little break here and there when I can. Sitting on the ladder is the same as sitting on the first few rungs, height wise, so you can get the boost and have a little less pain at the end of the day.
Post 25 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 10:01
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It's seasonal. Clearly the green ladders are for spring through fall, and unfashionable in this season. Black is for the dark days of winter.

Once went to buy some running shoes that were on sale. They had some pink flourishes on them. The blue ones on the same rack weren't on sale. I asked the associate. It was because of the seasons. Go figure.
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Post 26 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 10:04
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All this hate over a lousy cheap 4' ladder.... Good grief.


Me, I have a cheap 4 footer but it never gets used, since I bought the Little Giant 13 foot which is a lot more stable AND has the ability to become a taller ladder.



Sold most of my ladders a few years back (40' ext, 32' ext, 16' step, 12' step, 8' step and a couple 5' steps), but still have the two Little Giants (22' & 13'), the old 4 footer, and a work platform I picked up at the auctions for $7.50.


Used to love that monster 40 footer, but age has a way of changing things...LOL
Post 27 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 10:20
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On November 28, 2016 at 08:15, goldenzrule said...
I certainly understand not wanting to keep the ladders on the outside. I had my 6' on top of my old econoline van and fully understand the winter aspect. We get hit hard enough here in CT. What I have in my NV is a roof mounted rack (interior) that allows the ladder to hang.

[Link: adriansteel.com]

I use the 4' ladder as much or more than the 6'. For one, if I have to work in a closet the 6' is too tall and I cannot get in. It's quicker and easier to carry around. It's great for TV hangs where you need a little extra height. A lot of the older homes I work in here have shorter ceiling, some being only around 8', and the 4' ladder works great when working on these again.

Lastly, the Astro is a great van. I had an awd version years ago and loved it, but I just cannot fit what I can in my NV. With the shelving I have, I have it pretty well organized and fit quite a bit. It would definitely be challenging to fit everything I now have back in the Astro.

Oh, forgot, the 2 ft ladder. It is more of a short step ladder. I don't use it much and no longer carry it on the truck. It was good for a quick boost up but I agree with you that its best to have something you can lean on when needed.

I'd like the extra height, but I don't sell many TVs that don't fit inside the Astro.

You probably get hit harder than we do- my brother lives in Hartford and he has told me about snow that hasn't fallen here in years.

I have a Weather King shelves on the driver's side and Adrian on the other- the previous owner used it for window tint materials and tools, so the shelves they had were cobbled together from PVC sheet, little angle brackets and screws. I yanked those out as soon as I got it home.

I'm on my feet too much, as it is. I have an activity pedometer app that shows steps & elevation changes in my phone and one day, I walked over 6900 steps. People talk about walking 10,000 steps every day for losing weight and being healthy, but that same day, the monitor showed me doing 41 flights of stairs. Sitting isn't a bad thing.
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Post 28 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 10:21
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On November 28, 2016 at 10:04, Trunk-Slammer -Supreme said...
Used to love that monster 40 footer, but age has a way of changing things...LOL

Trying to position a 40' ladder while holding on at the lowest 7' isn't a lot of fun when the wind is blowing.
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Post 29 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 10:35
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On November 28, 2016 at 10:20, highfigh said...
I'd like the extra height, but I don't sell many TVs that don't fit inside the Astro.

You probably get hit harder than we do- my brother lives in Hartford and he has told me about snow that hasn't fallen here in years.

I have a Weather King shelves on the driver's side and Adrian on the other- the previous owner used it for window tint materials and tools, so the shelves they had were cobbled together from PVC sheet, little angle brackets and screws. I yanked those out as soon as I got it home.

I'm on my feet too much, as it is. I have an activity pedometer app that shows steps & elevation changes in my phone and one day, I walked over 6900 steps. People talk about walking 10,000 steps every day for losing weight and being healthy, but that same day, the monitor showed me doing 41 flights of stairs. Sitting isn't a bad thing.

Yeah, we've gotten hit pretty hard with some storms the past 8ish years. We had a few 3 foot storms in one year. That was NOT fun.

I had a fitbit and recently migrated over to a android watch. Fitbit was a better tracker. There were days I would put 12,000 steps and 50+ flights for stairs. You would think I wouldn't be so fat with that kind of activity.
Post 30 made on Monday November 28, 2016 at 10:40
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On November 28, 2016 at 10:04, Trunk-Slammer -Supreme said...
All this hate over a lousy cheap 4' ladder.... Good grief.

Me, I have a cheap 4 footer but it never gets used, since I bought the Little Giant 13 foot which is a lot more stable AND has the ability to become a taller ladder.

Sold most of my ladders a few years back (40' ext, 32' ext, 16' step, 12' step, 8' step and a couple 5' steps), but still have the two Little Giants (22' & 13'), the old 4 footer, and a work platform I picked up at the auctions for $7.50.

Used to love that monster 40 footer, but age has a way of changing things...LOL

No hate man. Still don't understand why people are getting bent out of shape. My comment was not meant as an attack. I am not sure how you do it with mainly just a Little Giant. They are way too heavy, in my opinion, to be used as your main every day ladder. They are great ladders, do not get me wrong. I love my werner that is of the same style but use it as an as needed basis. I probably use the 4' the most as it is the easiest to sling around a client house. 6' for anything that requires more height or anything that would require me to reach a bit on the 4'.

Anything that my 28' can't reach, I do not do. I am not afraid of heights, but have seen and heard too much about accidents on ladders that I choose to go the safer route. When I was younger, I worked in a HVAC supply house and heard some gnarly stories about guys calling off ladders. One in particular that had a ladder on a ledge on a roof and the ladder went down. The guy fell straight down and landed on the roof thankfully, but on his feet. Jacked everything up and he was in a bad way for a long time. He didn't walk for a year or two at all. That wasn't a tall ladder, but left enough of an impression for me to play it safer at all times.
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