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Ubiquiti v Araknis
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Post 1 made on Tuesday November 15, 2016 at 03:57
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We sell a ton of Ubiquiti (uap-ac-pro) but also use a lot of Wattbox and Luma w/OVRC and am intrigued by the future with OVRC and remote management with Araknis, Luma, and OVRC pro in a single platform.

Can the Araknis backend keep up with Unifi? Guest networks obviously, but how about landing pages for guest networks? How's the "handoff"? How about the Araknis Router vs Unifi Gateway?

We run our Unifi on a cloud server so its not just the remote access that we are looking for (because we already have that with Unifi) but the single platform for all devices that OVRC would provide. Is it worth the switch from something as stable as Ubiquiti has been for us?
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Post 2 made on Tuesday November 15, 2016 at 09:25
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Peronsally, we had nothing but issues with cloud services with ubiquiti. Used AWS. We've switch 100% to Araknis routers/wifi. Not aware of any issues. ALL our other issues went away: not being able to log into controller without redoing everything. Granted, that was mostly do to AWS services, constant pruning needed, AWS account hacked, etc.

Not familiar with landing page.

All i know is any tech that has the passwords can work on it without issue. This was NEVER the case with Ubiquiti. Others swear by it and love it, Unifi. After getting rid of it, my life because much easier. The whole controller required for Unifi to me is just dumb.
Post 3 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 01:33
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All my UfiFi installs get CloudKey - done and done.

As for Araknis APs, I find them limited.
Great for basic install, but not much data mining if you want to see user stats, no unified GUI across APs.
No schedules, bandwidth limits, guest portals, etc.

I use Araknis in residential all the time because setup is easy, warranty / replacement is dead easy and I make few bucks.
If we're talking about several APs, multiple SSIDs, schedules, throttling, portals, etc. you'd be better off sticking with UfiFi APs.

Araknis backbone (switches) more than capable of running the network with super easy remote access and control (think port reboot, etc.)
Post 4 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 07:46
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We host our own servers for Unifi...we have one (a reused old tech laptop!) hosting our "AC" server and one (our file server for the office) hosting our older UAP installs...We absolutely love it and just can't see going to the Araknis at this time even though we buy a ton of SnapAV and use their switches pretty much exclusively.
Post 5 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 07:52
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UBNT is crap, every piece i have ever sold has failed!
I love supporting product that supports me!
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 10:59
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On November 16, 2016 at 07:52, edizzle said...
UBNT is crap, every piece i have ever sold has failed!

Trying to not sound like a jerk, but I think you're doing something wrong. Ive sold hundreds with literally only ONE failure.
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OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 11:03
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On November 16, 2016 at 07:46, jrainey said...
We host our own servers for Unifi...we have one (a reused old tech laptop!) hosting our "AC" server and one (our file server for the office) hosting our older UAP installs...We absolutely love it and just can't see going to the Araknis at this time even though we buy a ton of SnapAV and use their switches pretty much exclusively.

Same. That's what I'm thinking. Stick with UAPs but move to Araknis switches to have some offsite control thrush ovrc but not lose out on unifi abilities.

But....I haven't tried Araknis so I really don't know what the exact trade off would be.
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OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 11:07
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On November 16, 2016 at 01:33, Mario said...
All my UfiFi installs get CloudKey - done and done.

As for Araknis APs, I find them limited.
Great for basic install, but not much data mining if you want to see user stats, no unified GUI across APs.
No schedules, bandwidth limits, guest portals, etc.

I use Araknis in residential all the time because setup is easy, warranty / replacement is dead easy and I make few bucks.
If we're talking about several APs, multiple SSIDs, schedules, throttling, portals, etc. you'd be better off sticking with UfiFi APs.

Araknis backbone (switches) more than capable of running the network with super easy remote access and control (think port reboot, etc.)

I still don't understand the need for the cloud key. I mean ,I literally don't know what it does. We just Fing the network, open putty, point to cloud, and adopt.

I don't need scheduling on this particular job where we are considering the switch. Maybe throttling but definitely need to be able to redirect to landing page for guest WiFi access.
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Post 9 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 11:36
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On November 16, 2016 at 07:52, edizzle said...
UBNT is crap, every piece i have ever sold has failed!

I am guessing that this is on the old AirMax side with picos....I understand that had a very high failure rate...out of the Unifi line I think we have lost one AP out of 100's
Post 10 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 11:38
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On November 16, 2016 at 11:03, SOUND.SD said...
Same. That's what I'm thinking. Stick with UAPs but move to Araknis switches to have some offsite control thrush ovrc but not lose out on unifi abilities.

But....I haven't tried Araknis so I really don't know what the exact trade off would be.

I am sure your rep would love to get one into your hands....we played with one for a long while before deciding all that we were really getting is a higher price.....once the OvrC platform is fully fleshed out we will play with it again
Post 11 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 13:49
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Ubiquiti is solid. Have done about a dozen installs with Cloud Key so far and not one issue. As far as Araknis, I have used their routers a few times, never tried a WAP. I love Ruckus & Ruckus Unleashed - works great.

I would rather break even on a network than make money and have to deal with issues all the time. Can't tell you how many customers I have come across that insist their particular control system that some outfit put in sucks, when in reality its the network they put in that creates the instability.
Post 12 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 14:01
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On November 16, 2016 at 13:49, Total Control Remotes said...
Can't tell you how many customers I have come across that insist their particular control system that some outfit put in sucks, when in reality its the network they put in that creates the instability.

9 out of 10 times, that network you are talking about is an Apple Airport Extreme with some Expresses scattered around the house.

Last edited by goldenzrule on November 16, 2016 21:48.
Post 13 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 14:41
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On November 16, 2016 at 14:01, goldenzrule said...
9 our of 10 times, that network you are talking about is an Apple Airport Extreme with some Expresses scattered around the house.

+1 billion
The less I say, the smarter I will appear
Post 14 made on Wednesday November 16, 2016 at 21:14
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I've moved to Araknis exclusively now. Love the stuff and OVRC. No real problems with Ubiquity or even Engenius, but with the ease of OVRC (especially if using other snap stuff in the job) and the price protection (never get shopped) it's a no brainer for me. On a side note, we have lots of fixed wireless providers due to rural projects and they seem to all use UBNT, so adding our own local UBNT items sometimes causes conflicts or loss/ non adoption due to the providers server/controller attempting to adopt the local network and vise versa. For some reason the local providers don't build real robust systems or firewalls so I run into this quite often. I stick to Snap and Engenius (for outdoor wireless bridges and commercial large are coverage).... YMMV
Post 15 made on Thursday November 17, 2016 at 07:34
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"All my UfiFi installs get CloudKey - done and done.

As for Araknis APs, I find them limited.
Great for basic install, but not much data mining if you want to see user stats, no unified GUI across APs.
No schedules, bandwidth limits, guest portals, etc."

I think Mario is spot on.

"I still don't understand the need for the cloud key. I mean ,I literally don't know what it does. We just Fing the network, open putty, point to cloud, and adopt. "

We have done this for few years and are trying to get away from it AWS or hosted on our server. For us the maintenance of keeping a server updated and running is a PITA. If you are using guest portal or other features it relies on that link to work. If that link/server/controller stops running ever customer on that controller stops working. They have internet access, but guests cannot authenticate i.e. no worky.

The cloud key is stupid easy to adopt and manage remotely. Update is now based on site and not your entire controller... For 79 or so we can put them in and forget about them.

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