RX-A1050, URC MX-990, various sources. Their models won't matter for this issue.

I'm setting up Zone 2, a pair of bathroom speakers, to be the same source as the main zone. I want to use a wall mount volume control and just set Zone 2 in the receiver to always be the same level. The client won't have to have a remote in the bathroom to adjust the volume.

I'm not able to figure out how to set Zone 2 volume so it's always the same, and I've messed with Initial Volume on and off. I don't understand the results.

Right now Main and Zone 2 Initial Volumes are Off (this is the closest to "Last" that I see in the menu). I set Zone 2 volume to -14. When I go to DVD and Satellite, Zone 2 volume is -14. When I go to FM, Zone 2 volume goes to -39. Then, going back to DVD or satellite, Zone 2 volume is -39 dB.

Any ideas how to lock down the Zone 2 volume?

Turn initial volume on for zone two and set it to zero. Also, set the max volume to zero.

With some actual live help from the Yamaha help desk, he figured it out (I sure didn't!).

I was sending a SCENE command for the tuner. Its volume was set to -29. Once I set that volume the same as the others, the volumes stayed the same. 714 522-9105 if you ever need to know.

If the AVR's menu allows for setting the turn on volume, set that to -0dB if it allows going to +14 or whatever the scale shows. If it only uses or they prefer the 0-100 scale, set it to a level that won't puke the speakers or cause problems in the event that the room is extremely live and excessive SPL will excite too much reverberation. Also, don't use a volume command in the setup and DON'T give the user a button for this command.

highfigh, I'd never set turn-on volume to anything as high as that. (Normal Yamaha listening volumes are typically in the -25 to -15 range.)

In the future do this:

1) Turn main zone on to an FM station and verify reception at a low level.

2) Turn [TAPE2 MONITOR] ON

3) Turn main volume all the way up - as high as it can go (I know, seems strange)

4) Turn [TAPE2 MONITOR] OFF

Follow the above steps for continued success. You're welcome.

IKIKTNT2M

The main idea of the Zone 2 setup is NOT to give the client a volume adjustment on the remote, so I'm already there.

Ernie,

I haven't looked at the codes URC exposes, but if you go into the Receiver's setup with a web browser you can set the 1050's Zone2 for "Fixed" output. I don't recall if you can set this "Fixed" output for anything other than 100%, but you can also set the initial and maximum volumes. In order to further bury things from customer tinkering, you can setup a "Scene" that is not available on the native remote, then lock the memory. Your program can call this hidden Scene.

I specifically posted that you should leave some headroom.

Ever used a Denon? They have two scales; one that shows dB from -infinity to +14dB and the other ranges from 0-100. _0dB is reference level, not WOT. I never told you to set it to WOT and if you have ever listened to a system when it's set to -0dB, you would know that the level isn't excessive unless the speakers can't handle it, the equalization used is excessive or the AVR is defective.

Typical listening level in the main area doesn't take into account the lack of sensitivity in the speakers that are scattered around the house and the fact that the volume control reduces the level. Also, the cable length may cause some drop in voltage, so....

In the main area, I use -10dB as the limit, especially if they have kids or someone has no clue about how to use a system and in the latter, I use the 0-100 scale and set it to about 70, just to avoid the need to explain decibels to someone who will never understand the concept of attenuation.

And no, I don't want you to argue about - infinity.