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PowerLine or MoCa for adding WAPs
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Post 1 made on Monday October 24, 2016 at 12:48
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It seems like I remember reading here that some of you use either of these two to place the WAP somewhere else around the house. Sometimes pulling another cat5 is just not possible.Do you consider this a bulletproof solution for clients? Do you prefer one over the other?
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Post 2 made on Monday October 24, 2016 at 12:53
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Neither, they both suck.
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Post 3 made on Monday October 24, 2016 at 13:09
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We have used MOCA with the Araknis AP's with decent success... As long as MOCA is the only thing on the coax line. No luck sharing the coax with a TV provider's signal.
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Post 4 made on Monday October 24, 2016 at 13:14
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MoCa works wonderfully!!

The only caveat is you cannot have two MoCa networks (fios and your router) you would have to rely on the fios router for your network (unless you are very very network savy)

Have used moca with excellent success over the years! Just make sure all your splitters are moca certified and you put a moca filter on the line coming in if it's cable!
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Post 5 made on Monday October 24, 2016 at 13:34
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Sonora has DECA adaptors for use with DirecTV systems. I have one client, whose house was a flip where all CAT cables had been cut, who's using 10 DirecTV tuners (part of this is a DirecTV wireless bridge) and presently has four devices on DECA using the DirecTV wiring, plus three devices on wifi.

I'm next working to add a signal in the <400 MHz range, for which Sonora also has filters and injectors, all passive.

Bubby and an engineering guy at Sonora helped me understand how to do this.
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Post 6 made on Monday October 24, 2016 at 15:04
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Check out EERO.

Just installed pro version (different options for installer if you are a dealer) Best buy and amazon don't have the pro options. Had a customer that we tried ethernet over powerline adaptors, Access points in repeater mode. Nothing worked. Installed EERO in 5 minutes and customer is loving it. This is a legit solution when you need it. 2 story 4000 square ft home works Flawless. It is basically like Sonos but for WiFi. It used a mesh network to communicate.

https://eero.com/
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Post 7 made on Monday October 24, 2016 at 15:08
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I have recently deployed two different Actiontec MoCA-net links in homes with no available [or pullable] Category cable. They both share Coaxial networks with TWC systems, one has whole-house DVR and they've both proven stable thus far. Bandwidth exceeded 100 Mbps in both cases, which should be adequate for a WAP and superior to the [often highly variable] bandwidth available on a powerline adapter.
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Post 8 made on Monday October 24, 2016 at 16:01
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The Actiontec Moca pieces work great. Some houses I have the Netgear PLS1200's and they work great. The Netgear ones are far better than anything else that is power line.
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Post 9 made on Monday October 24, 2016 at 17:02
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I have installed a pair of Actiontek from one rack to another. There was NO other way to get cat to the rack. Get this, that MoCa line carries the DMS stream for URC Total Control Amps AND the IP for the wattbox thats in the second rack. Through a URC MFS switch. Shouldnt work but does.

It has been FLAWLESS and has not failed to date. Been pushing a year now? or close to.
Post 10 made on Monday October 24, 2016 at 17:37
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I'm using the Actiontec ECB6200 MoCA 2.0 bonded adapters over a ~200' RG6 run between two buildings. Get a 600+ Mbps physical link rate, a single stream file copy will regularly do 50+ MBps (mega bytes!), 100+ using a two streams in LAN Test.

Line is shared with Comcast cable table and internet. MoCa filter on the street drop and (2) 2-way splitters between the two devices. With the latest firmware installed (may need to request from Actiontec tech support) they have been 100% reliable over the course of many months.

This is MUCH faster (on the order of 10x) and more stable than any of the mutiple powerline ethernet adapters I tried in the same location. And, from what I've read on smallnetbuilder, much faster than you'll see from any of the mesh access point setups, which are all using WiFi for backhaul.

Interestingly they found Netgear's Orbi to be by far the fastest of the mesh products: [Link: smallnetbuilder.com]

Hope this is useful.
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Post 11 made on Monday October 24, 2016 at 18:10
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On October 24, 2016 at 12:53, kgossen said...
Neither, they both suck.

Obviously you have no experience with moca, because it is a life saver
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Post 12 made on Monday October 24, 2016 at 18:27
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We took over an IP camera system for an apartment project. They had six buildings and because each building is over 500' from the management office had six modems and six Comcast accounts. Comcast was charging them $55 per building for the internet connection in the building which was just used to send the IP cameras back to the management office. We installed these units and ran aerial coax between the units.

They immediately cut their Comcast bill over $300 a month and close to $4000 a year. They have been rock solid and have had no problems with them.

[Link: amazon.com]
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Post 13 made on Tuesday October 25, 2016 at 01:45
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On October 24, 2016 at 18:27, davet2020 said...
We took over an IP camera system for an apartment project. They had six buildings and because each building is over 500' from the management office had six modems and six Comcast accounts. Comcast was charging them $55 per building for the internet connection in the building which was just used to send the IP cameras back to the management office. We installed these units and ran aerial coax between the units.

They immediately cut their Comcast bill over $300 a month and close to $4000 a year. They have been rock solid and have had no problems with them.

[Link: amazon.com]

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