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Need large rectangular/square push button
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Post 16 made on Wednesday September 28, 2016 at 18:10
studiocats1
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Mount an industrial mushroom switch behind a piece of the kick plate. Plenty to choose from here:

[Link: mcmaster.com]
Post 17 made on Wednesday September 28, 2016 at 19:03
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As a formal slot technician. When I saw the thread title, I immediately thought of this.

[Link: ebay.com]

The Play Max Bet and Spin Reels are about 1.5 to 2" square. And these buttons are designed to take a beating. Think about all the drunk, cocky patrons hitting these buttons with their hands, fists, bottles, shoes or whatever.

KOT
Post 18 made on Thursday September 29, 2016 at 13:40
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Have the plumber do it right and put in a programmable temperature valve/timer at the furthest fixture.

This honestly doesn't seem like something you should be concerning yourself with.
Post 19 made on Thursday September 29, 2016 at 15:04
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On September 27, 2016 at 23:11, cshepard said...
The push buttons we use are basically doorbell buttons without a light, and there's never an elegant place to put them, especially in kitchens.

Not a toe kick, but a momentary light switch:

[Link: amazon.com]

Should come in multiple colors and blend in with all the other switches in the kitchen.
Post 20 made on Thursday September 29, 2016 at 16:21
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I've always wondered, if it would be better to put a Point Of Use heater closer to the fixtures in a large house. Say it would services 3 fixtures, what are the probably of all 3 being used at the same time. This is to use the POU heater for those VERY important seconds to et the hot water. Then once the normal water heater's water reaches the POU, the POU can then adjust as needed.

KOT
Post 21 made on Friday September 30, 2016 at 10:03
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On September 29, 2016 at 13:40, mark65 said...
Have the plumber do it right and put in a programmable temperature valve/timer at the furthest fixture.

This honestly doesn't seem like something you should be concerning yourself with.

Works good if things aren't home run to a manifold. If it's a manifold which a branch out to each fixture this method doesn't accomplish anything for the other fixtures.


As for buttons ....
I like the motion idea but not huge on the push button. If you gotta walk in there and push a button ur still waiting for hot water. Might as well just turn the damn faucet on and wait as wait time wouldn't be any less. Seems pointless to me except if you had a recirc loop then u save a tiny bit of water versus down the drain but it's so minimal and waters so cheap in my area. Even with motion unless it's one damn large room to walk across you'll still be waiting for hot water. I agree a timer method is the best. Along with fully insulated hot water lines to help hold the heat for a bit since it was ran last.
Post 22 made on Friday September 30, 2016 at 10:06
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On September 29, 2016 at 16:21, King of typos said...
I've always wondered, if it would be better to put a Point Of Use heater closer to the fixtures in a large house. Say it would services 3 fixtures, what are the probably of all 3 being used at the same time. This is to use the POU heater for those VERY important seconds to et the hot water. Then once the normal water heater's water reaches the POU, the POU can then adjust as needed.

KOT

This is really what's more ideal especially in manifold setups like I mentioned above. Here's an example of a manifold similar to what I used in my own home. Manablocs they are called [Link: s324.photobucket.com]
Post 23 made on Friday September 30, 2016 at 10:08
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C4 has european style square keypads now!
The Bitterness of Poor Quality is Remembered Long after the Sweetness of Price is Forgotten! - Benjamin Franklin
Post 24 made on Friday September 30, 2016 at 10:16
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On September 28, 2016 at 01:57, cshepard said...
Personally I think the whole water recirc idea is silly in practice, & I don't think many of the homeowners really even use the push buttons.

I can't stand waiting for hot water. It's a pet peeve of mine and a complete waste of time waiting a minute for hot water. So in any house I own from here on out I'll have something whether a loop. A point of use etc. but I agree that most probably never use that button. Seems pointless as I mentioned above. Putting it on a timer and always having hot water with no interaction required is a lot nicer. The extra energy use is minimal im sure.


I stayed a hotel once.... I showered at night. So no one was using hot water in a bit. It took over 10 minutes for hot water to get up the room. Nuts. It was a brand new hotel and a nice one across the street from Greek peak ski resort. Somebody did a piss poor job behind that install. The heater must been god knows how far away.
Post 25 made on Saturday October 1, 2016 at 06:50
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Not sure of your budget, but this is certainly elegant and safe, but not toe kick. Might take a little integration. That is what you do.

[Link: insinkerator.com]
Franke makes a square model

[Link: footfaucet.net]

Last edited by thecapnredfish on October 1, 2016 06:58.
Post 26 made on Saturday October 1, 2016 at 10:12
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On September 29, 2016 at 16:21, King of typos said...
I've always wondered, if it would be better to put a Point Of Use heater closer to the fixtures in a large house. Say it would services 3 fixtures, what are the probably of all 3 being used at the same time. This is to use the POU heater for those VERY important seconds to et the hot water. Then once the normal water heater's water reaches the POU, the POU can then adjust as needed.

When we redo the master bathroom this winter that is what we are going to add. I already have a Rinnai for that end of the house, but am going to add a 6-10 gallon 120v tank before the first fixture.

My only concern is there will be a slug of cold water from the pipes coming into that tank when a faucet is turned on so will it mix enough with the hot in the tank and the hot from the Rinnai so that it is seamless. Or will there be short period of colder water where they haven't mixed well.
Post 27 made on Saturday October 1, 2016 at 14:56
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Thee old "cold water sandwich". With a that large you should be fine.
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