Disco'ed and too bad.

Switched speakers AND the subwoofer from AVR to Sonos. Audio sensing or 12v trigger. What else is out there?

Nothing I have in a single box solution. Certainly speaker level switchers triggered by either source or voltage exist from Niles and Russound, and probably Sonance. The line level product will be a challenge, and I could see several boxes in place of the sas-1 potentially.

Paging Ken Manson, tech guru extraordinaire from Sonance....

SAS-1 Discontinued?!
Fail!

Oh, ugg, I use this for Sonos integration too. This scheme is seamless for the operator. This must be some sort of conspiracy.

Did you verify this with Niles or told so by a distributor? They are known to say such things if not available or need minimum orders.
If triggering by voltage you could do it with relays easy enough.

Speakercraft has a line level switch box as well as a speaker level switch box. You would have to use 1 of each for speaekrs and a sub. They are audio sense only though.

SpeakerCraft SL-One & LL-One.

The good news is they are very inexpensive and have been very reliable for me over the years.

Is there a speaker level switcher that can be used, where you'd then use the speaker level inputs of the subwoofer? That would sure simplify your switching needs.

I think that most of us, purists that we are, don't ever want to use speaker level inputs. Let me just say I could argue that it won't hurt unless your main power amp is total crap. Give it a try and see if you can tell any difference.

Sorry about not responding sooner, but I just got back from vacation.

Sonance does not offer a comparable auto-switching speaker selector with the features and performance of that higher-end Niles model.

The AL2 will auto-switch between two line-level sources.

The AS2 and AS2S will auto-switch one or two pair of speakers between 2 power amplifiers'.

The new line of Sonamp DSP models will auto-switch between inputs (DSP8-130), but this is a much more expensive way to do what you want.

Fred can order from Niles while a few are still in the CA warehouse... 79 left at last count.

i heard this 6 months ago!!! FAIL!!! terrible...ive been using these for years...and use tons w nuvo and sonos in all 5.1's... i figured they would have a replacement of some sort before discoing....

I was late finding out these were discontinued or I would have stocked up on every one I could find. We've used many in the past as with others, integrating a Sonos amp in a 5.1 system. Has anyone found a comparable product? I've used some niles SPK-1's as well but this doesn't incorporate the sub.

SnapAV, are you listening?????????

While they (someone, ANYONE) is at it, please make a muting volume control.

All of the recent Volume controls that I've seen have a mute position. Do you mean a mute that is available to an external control system?

At one point Xantech had an in-wall speaker volume control with an IR mute. Currently, I'm not sure what Xantech is doing. Mostly it seems like they are burning off old inventory. Their website offers a 2015 catalog.

Niles had their MVC-100, which used a 12VDC connection to activate the muting circuit. It could be set to normally muted/normally unmuted. For anyone who wants to sleep when another person wants to use the system without changing to a fully-automated system, these are great. It's also great when outdoor speakers are used- they stay off until needed.

[Link: crutchfield.com]

The problem seemed to be that nobody at AV distributors bothered to mention them and some didn't know what they did or why they would be a good idea.