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Does Sonos/Pandora eventually time out?
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Post 1 made on Wednesday July 6, 2016 at 15:15
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I have a customer complaining that after 2 to 3 hours his music stops. He uses Pandora and Spotify. Is this normal?
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Post 2 made on Wednesday July 6, 2016 at 15:16
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If you have a free Pandora account and do not change anything over a that period, it will time out.
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Post 3 made on Wednesday July 6, 2016 at 16:02
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The services are paying various costs at a per minute, per user level. They hate to think that they are wasting all that money streaming to the plants.

I also think that services contract for a maximum number of streams before they roll over into another cost tier. If user n+1 comes along, the streamer must make a decision -- roll into higher tier, reject n+1, or dump a plant.
Post 4 made on Wednesday July 6, 2016 at 16:41
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Before I started paying, Pandora would pause and ask if I was still listening, with a message that said they have to pay the artists and if I'm not listening.....

The irony is that they pay so little it's like not being paid.
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OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday July 6, 2016 at 17:36
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but is 2 or 3 hours normal? When I finally got through to sonos, they said 8 hours. But I wonder if they are talking about a paid account
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Post 6 made on Wednesday July 6, 2016 at 17:41
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On July 6, 2016 at 17:36, Fins said...
but is 2 or 3 hours normal? When I finally got through to sonos, they said 8 hours. But I wonder if they are talking about a paid account

That seems like a short period- is the streaming device resetting, or does the Pandora screen show something about stopping because of no interaction?
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Post 7 made on Wednesday July 6, 2016 at 21:25
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It has been a few months since I worked with my free Pandora account, but my cutoff was at eight hours. Sometime prior to cutoff, however, they would stray off or repeat the program -- probably to see if I was paying attention. If I did not immediately give the stray track a thumbs down, I would be punished later (for falling asleep at the screen) because the stray genre would be permanently added to the program. I suspect (without proof) that these stray tracks were cheaper than the others.
Post 8 made on Thursday July 7, 2016 at 12:46
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I have seen the free Pandora time out in as little as 30 minutes. Pandora One, the paid version, will time out after many hours...probably 8 or more. Pandora One is very inexpensive. I believe it is less than $40 per year. For that you get no commercials, better audio quality, and much longer play time. I have no experience with Spotify.
Post 9 made on Thursday July 7, 2016 at 19:38
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On July 7, 2016 at 12:46, PatMac said...
I have seen the free Pandora time out in as little as 30 minutes. Pandora One, the paid version, will time out after many hours...probably 8 or more. Pandora One is very inexpensive. I believe it is less than $40 per year. For that you get no commercials, better audio quality, and much longer play time. I have no experience with Spotify.

From what I understand, you only get the higher sound quality with Pandora on your computer. Mobile devices and CE devices are still at the lower bit rate, even with the paid account. This of course is very stupid and I hope someone can chime in and tell me this is wrong. That they have changed this or was simply incorrect info to begin with.

I have Spotify and pay for the premium service. Not everything is high quality on their service. Some songs are lower bit rate and they tell you this on their website (somewhere in the fine print). I have experienced this, where some songs were noticeably lower quality than others. It has not been a lot, just a few, but I have noticed it.
The other thing that pisses me off with Spotify is they don't allow UI integration like every other service. Launch Spotify on most CE devices and you have to use the Spotify connect app. The few devices that I can use a built-in interface (like Roku), the UI sucks so bad you'll want to use the separate Spotify connect app.
OP | Post 10 made on Thursday July 7, 2016 at 20:00
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On July 6, 2016 at 17:41, highfigh said...
That seems like a short period- is the streaming device resetting, or does the Pandora screen show something about stopping because of no interaction?

To be honest, I have no idea. I haven't seen it happen. I only have the info the client has told me. And we all know how that can go.
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Post 11 made on Friday July 8, 2016 at 08:21
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Yes, it definitely times out, and it's not a consistent amount of time. Pandora One will fix it.

As far as the quality difference between PC and Media Server, I haven't noticed a difference, they both seem pretty good!
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Post 12 made on Friday July 8, 2016 at 10:17
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I was told it was a four hour cut off. Also told royalties are paid the second a song plays, ie, song starts, you skip it, royalties still paid. Thats why they limit you on the ability to skip songs! So the artist gets half a penny or less when I hear them for 2 seconds. (or whatever ridiculously low fee it is). But I dont have a lot of sympathy for anyone making millions already. :) Not saying they dont "deserve" it, just no sympathy.
Post 13 made on Friday July 8, 2016 at 11:47
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If you are going to have Pandora playing 24/7, you can set an alarm for every 7 hours to restart the feed.
Post 14 made on Friday July 8, 2016 at 18:01
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I remember this question being asked a few months ago on here. But instead of trying to find that thread. I'll just post this piece from Pandora.com

[Link: help.pandora.com]

So even with Pandora 1, you'll still receive that message or the streaming will stop. It's just at a later time.

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Post 15 made on Friday July 8, 2016 at 22:08
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Unfortunately, the Sonos client cannot display reminders.
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