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ELAN VIA! stand-alone with non-discrete power receiver
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Post 1 made on Saturday June 8, 2002 at 23:22
John Pechulis
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Anyone know how to configure the software for a non-discrete receiver?

Is it possible using a Z-CUBE and a PVIA1 to configure it to only turn on the receiver when one of the sources are selected, and only turn off the receiver when the "OFF" button is pressed?

Thanks,

JJP
OP | Post 2 made on Sunday June 9, 2002 at 16:39
John Pechulis
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Bump
Post 3 made on Sunday June 9, 2002 at 19:52
kabster
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John contact Via and ask them about the z or x cube it does power sense and turns it into discrete (sort of)

Bump lol

I'll try to find my paperwork somewhere here

This message was edited by kabster on 06/09/02 19:53.37.
OP | Post 4 made on Sunday June 9, 2002 at 21:12
John Pechulis
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kab, I think I've got the right parts (PVIA1 and Z-CUBE), I just need to know how to program the VIA! file for it to work.

This is the first time I've had to use a "non-discrete" receiver in a system, it's a client's piece.

Best part about this, is the install is 2 hours and 40 minutes away, and it's scheduled for Tuesday!! LOL

Thanks,

JJP
Post 5 made on Sunday June 9, 2002 at 21:21
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If the receiver has latching power, you could use a xantach CC-12 to trigger a Niles AC-3. Then you would have discrete power commands.
OP | Post 6 made on Sunday June 9, 2002 at 22:22
John Pechulis
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On 06/09/02 21:21.48, jwalkup said...
If the receiver has latching power, you could
use a xantach CC-12 to trigger a Niles AC-3. Then
you would have discrete power commands.

Unfortunately, the Adcom GTP-600 which is used as the whole-house audio preamp, does not have a latched power switch or discretes(to my knowledge). To make things more challenging, the unit is controlled by both the VIA! panel and a Lexicon 700TRF with a TCM-3RF which is used to control the media system and the whole-house audio.

Controlling the Adcom from the 700T is no problem, as the 700T in conjunction with the TCM-3RF, can sense the power status of the Adcom through a sync port.

The problem lies with the VIA! which is used for the whole-house system only. It controls a VIA! music, a music-only satellite receiver, and the Adcom preamp. Somehow it is understood by the client, that one touch of a source button will set the WH system for the source selected. Before anyone knew if the Adcom had discretes.

So that's where I stand, as of now. If anyone could help here, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

JJP


This message was edited by John Pechulis on 06/09/02 22:24.27.
Post 7 made on Sunday June 9, 2002 at 23:31
ngavchris
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John,
If the customer has the kind of investment in EQ you have discussed. just replace the GTP-600. A litte on the outdated side of things. I know the expense is there, but the overall solution to your problem would be solved.
Post 8 made on Sunday June 9, 2002 at 23:35
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John,

I see you posted your question on Hector's website. I would just give him a call tomorrow morning. I am sure that you can do it, and the Via software is all his baby.

If you have problems reaching him, give me a call, and I will find out for you.

Best Regards,

Eric
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Eric
Post 9 made on Sunday June 9, 2002 at 23:50
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During the design the process of VIA Touch Panel about two years ago, it was decided that component power was to be handled in one of two ways, discrete power commands or the SR-1. We felt that most modern components have discrete power commands (Sony just might prove us wrong). However, Elan is in the process of releasing the long awaited SR-1 that will be able to handle a component’s power state..

I’ll check on the release date of the SR-1 tomorrow and post an update.
OP | Post 10 made on Monday June 10, 2002 at 07:36
John Pechulis
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Thanks guys.

Hector, the PVIA1 manual shows the z-cube connected to the receiver and then connected to the PVIA1 sense port in a stand-alone system, what purpose does it serve currently? The manual doesn't say much about the configuration.

Anyone have any ideas to handle power of the system? Should I program a source button labeled power? Would that be the best option here, given the time constraints?

Thanks again,

JJP

This message was edited by John Pechulis on 06/10/02 07:43.11.
Post 11 made on Monday June 10, 2002 at 11:35
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The Z-Cude input on the PVIA1, or any PVIA for that matter, is a System Port trigger input. On the VIA Tools “Trigger” screen, you can program a macro in System Port On trigger and a different macro on the System Port Off trigger. These macros will be executed when the system trigger is applied and removed.

The System Port trigger is only active with a Z-630 or stand-alone system, not a HD system.

The Local Port trigger is the same as the System Port trigger except that it is on the Local RJ-49 jack and is active for all systems types.

Basically, these triggers are active when a ground is applied to pin one of the System or Local RJ-49 jack. Each trigger is independent from the other.

You can use these trigger for almost anything you can think of. For example, you can put a pressure sensor on a chair. When your customer sits down, the “On” trigger macro can be program to turn on his system. When he gets up, the “Off” trigger macro can be programmed to turn off his system.

This is just one on an indefinite number of uses for these triggers. I’m sure others can post other examples.

The Z-Cube input on the VIA Touch Panel is different than in the Z-Pad.


This message was edited by Hector on 06/10/02 20:01.59.
OP | Post 12 made on Monday June 10, 2002 at 18:31
John Pechulis
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Thanks Hector.

JJP
Post 13 made on Monday June 10, 2002 at 22:47
Eric Johnson
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John,

Your best bet is the Xantech Gatekeeper for your problem at this point. The gatekeeper will need a 12v sense module and a wall wart for the Adcom's switched outlet. Any questions on the Gatekeeper, give me a call.

Best Regards,

-Eric

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Eric


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