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Post 1 made on Thursday May 26, 2016 at 16:00
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Trying to find out if the line out is variable or fixed. It makes no mention in the manual.
Post 2 made on Thursday May 26, 2016 at 17:54
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98.69356% sure it's fixed. It's been a while but I seem to remember not variable.
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Post 3 made on Thursday May 26, 2016 at 21:06
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On May 26, 2016 at 16:00, musictoo said...
Trying to find out if the line out is variable or fixed. It makes no mention in the manual.

Go to Pages 39 and 40 of the manual.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 4 made on Friday May 27, 2016 at 00:05
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I hate to even post here anymore as it seems I end up always looking stupid but here I go again.

Am I missing something here? AFAIK, the AVR-1911 has no line out?

I even looked at pages 39 and 40 of the manual. I see nothing about line out.

Someone enlighten me.....
Post 5 made on Friday May 27, 2016 at 02:53
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I see a Zone 2 out, but no preamp out or tape loop or anything like that.

I assume the OP really was referring to Zone 2? If so, the manual pages referenced seem to indicate variable, but only analog sources. If the OP was referring to a preamp out... better get a different amp.
Post 6 made on Sunday May 29, 2016 at 00:13
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Power Amp assign only (Variable), no Z2 preouts at that price point in the old days.
Post 7 made on Sunday May 29, 2016 at 01:54
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On May 26, 2016 at 21:06, highfigh said...
Go to Pages 39 and 40 of the manual.

Aw, come on. If you can look up the file or drag out the manual and you can pinpoint the pages, surely you can quote what's there or tell him the answer. This is tantalizing him, not helping him.

Thanks, Matt.
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Post 8 made on Sunday May 29, 2016 at 09:05
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On May 29, 2016 at 01:54, Ernie Gilman said...
Aw, come on. If you can look up the file or drag out the manual and you can pinpoint the pages, surely you can quote what's there or tell him the answer. This is tantalizing him, not helping him.

Thanks, Matt.

Or, you could have gone there to quote it for him and try to take credit.

Drag out a manual? Why would anyone do that?

I'm constantly amazed that people take the time to find a forum, write a question and wait for answers instead of doing a google search for 'Denon AVR-1911 manual'.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 9 made on Sunday May 29, 2016 at 09:12
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On May 29, 2016 at 00:13, M Hi Fi said...
Power Amp assign only (Variable), no Z2 preouts at that price point in the old days.

The AVR-1911? The model with the remote that has the AMP button and the new style mic from 2011 is from the old days?
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 10 made on Sunday May 29, 2016 at 09:55
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YUP!

On May 29, 2016 at 09:12, highfigh said...
The AVR-1911? The model with the remote that has the AMP button and the new style mic from 2011 is from the old days?
Post 11 made on Sunday May 29, 2016 at 10:46
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On May 29, 2016 at 09:55, M Hi Fi said...
YUP!

The manual I saw has Zone 2 line output with a few level options.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 12 made on Monday May 30, 2016 at 00:47
Ernie Gilman
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At the end of this, I conclude: I'd say you have to connect things, print out pages 39 and 40 of the manual, and figure out what the hell it really does. If you read all this, you'll still have to try it out and see.


Ok. Sigh. I now applaud you, highfigh, for pointing out the pages and NOT trying to tell what the instructions said. This is still not clear, not even after Matt said:
On May 29, 2016 at 00:13, M Hi Fi said...
Power Amp assign only (Variable), no Z2 preouts at that price point in the old days.

But what, then, is the 1911's ZONE2 line output using RCA connectors? Is that not a Z2 preout? I guess not, since preamps allow you to vary the output. But it's a Z2 line level output, so saying there's no Z2 preout is very unclear.

And here's the source of the confusion. From the manual, Page 39, under Playback in Zone 2 (Separate Room):

*You can operate this unit so as to enjoy audio in a different room (Zone2) other than the MAIN ZONE (room where the unit is located).
*You can simultaneously play back the same source in both the MAIN ZONE and ZONE2. You can also play back separate sources in the MAIN ZONE and ZONE2.
*There are two methods to do this, as described below. Choose one of the methods.
1 ZONE2 playback by speaker output
2 ZONE2 playback by audio output using an external amplifier

What has not mentioned at this point is that the volume of the speaker output using the 1911's amplifiers is controlled by ZONE2 volume of the 1911, and playback using an external amplifier DOES NOT allow control of the volume from the 1911.

The manual also says on Page 39:

Adjust the volume on the connected amplifier.

This is under a drawing showing the amplifier to be in a separate room. That is, you use that amp, not the 1911, to control the volume.

Then there's contradictory information on Page 40 in the PLAYBACK section:
Adjusting the volume
Use VOL (up+down symbols) to adjust the volume.

Then it gets more complicated than that and I'm not going to try to type it out.

I'd say you have to connect things, print out those two pages, and figure out what the hell it really does.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 13 made on Monday May 30, 2016 at 12:19
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If you Google search AVR-1911 and then select images, the first photo shows no Z2 preouts. So I went with that! Upon further investigation, the unit does have FIXED Z2 Preouts and Variable Amp Assign channels.

When all else fails "RTFM"
Post 14 made on Monday May 30, 2016 at 19:24
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On May 30, 2016 at 12:19, M Hi Fi said...
If you Google search AVR-1911 and then select images, the first photo shows no Z2 preouts. So I went with that! Upon further investigation, the unit does have FIXED Z2 Preouts and Variable Amp Assign channels.

When all else fails "RTFM"

That's a great acronym and it's amazing how many people can figure out what it means without having heard of it before. BOHICA and DILLIGAF are two others that cover a lot of situations.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 15 made on Monday May 30, 2016 at 19:56
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The fact that they're fixed seems contradictory to the manual, which says, under the Zone 2 section for "adjusting the volume":

"Turn MASTER VOLUME after pressing ZONE2 SELECT on the main unit to adjust the sound volume."

The order of that information is backwards and sounds like the result of a translation. How about:

"To adjust ZONE 2 volume on the main unit, press ZONE2 SELECT and then turn MASTER VOLUME."

At any rate, it further states that Zone 2 volume's level can be saved to a Quick Select button, but nowhere does it state whether such control is limited to Zone 2 via speaker output, or also works for Zone 2 via line level output. It's just presented generically, following the line level hookup instructions.
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