Your Universal Remote Control Center
RemoteCentral.com
Custom Installers' Lounge Forum - View Post
Previous section Next section Up level
Up level
The following page was printed from RemoteCentral.com:

Login:
Pass:
 
 

Topic:
Suggestions For High Quality, Aimable and Outdoor-Rated In-Ceilings?
This thread has 8 replies. Displaying all posts.
Post 1 made on Friday May 13, 2016 at 12:19
Mogul
Senior Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2010
1,164
Need a suggestion FAST! All of my "go-to" speakers have transitioned to magnetic grills and, therefore, will not fare well in moisture, etc.

TIA
"Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble." [Sir Henry Royce]
Post 2 made on Friday May 13, 2016 at 14:30
iimig
Senior Member
Joined:
Posts:
April 2011
1,154
Sonance Extreme series have a magnetic grille but hold up amazingly well. They are powdercoated stainless steel. Sound great too.
The less I say, the smarter I will appear
Post 3 made on Friday May 13, 2016 at 14:58
longshot16
Super Member
Joined:
Posts:
November 2009
3,442
James Loudspeaker.
The Unicorn Whisperer
Post 4 made on Friday May 13, 2016 at 15:16
goldenzrule
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
July 2007
8,474
On May 13, 2016 at 14:30, iimig said...
Sonance Extreme series have a magnetic grille but hold up amazingly well. They are powdercoated stainless steel. Sound great too.

Was listening to them yesterday while suffering through my TV hang with a Sunbrite arm. The Sonance do sound great. I turned them up a bit and was met with a nice smooth, warm sound, turn it up a little more and it sounded like we had a sub out there. We had just 4 in-ceiling 6" speakers.
Post 5 made on Friday May 13, 2016 at 15:42
Rob Grabon
Founding Member
Joined:
Posts:
November 2001
1,392
Terra - but no aiming.
Technology is cheap, Time is expensive.
Post 6 made on Saturday May 14, 2016 at 09:48
Mac Burks (39)
Elite Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2007
17,518
About 1/3 of every sonance (thats a lot) grill i have installed has fallen and had to be repaired or replaced. The magnet breaks away from the grill and the speaker. You have to glue the pieces of magnet back...assuming the grill didnt bend beyond repair when it fell.

These are ocean front homes. You might not have the same issue if youre not near the ocean.
Avid Stamp Collector - I really love 39 Cent Stamps
Post 7 made on Saturday May 14, 2016 at 10:52
Mr. Stanley
Elite Member
Joined:
Posts:
January 2006
16,954
a few small dabs of GE Clear silicone. That'll hold em on.
"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger."
Frank Lloyd Wright
Post 8 made on Saturday May 14, 2016 at 11:32
Chris_006
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
November 2006
74
Sonance 100%.
Post 9 made on Wednesday May 18, 2016 at 18:11
Ken Manson
Long Time Member
Joined:
Posts:
November 2009
45
In 2007, a short production run of Visual Performance in-door, in-ceiling models were inadvertently manufactured with a substandard adhesive for the grille magnets. This affected a certain production run and not all the models. Gravity pulling down on the grille would cause the adhesive to give way and some the magnets dropped onto the inside of grille.  We have replaced many speakers in that production under warranty and have not had the problem since. This pertains to the older, odd number VP models such as VP63R or VP85R.

Please note that this did not apply to the Visual Performance Extreme Series. The VP Extreme grille-holding system was designed differently and did not have the problem. VP Extreme Grilles are top-grade 316L Stainless Steel and have an excellent track record for longevity.

One reason the VP Extreme Series is more expensive is because they have resin-coated, Samarium Cobalt Magnets embedded in the speaker frame and in the grille (instead of Neo/Iron/Boron that the in-door VP model use). So the VP Extreme has twice the holding power of standard VP. SmCo is more costly to do but definitely worth it. It does not have any iron content so it’s inherently corrosion-resistant. This is obviously a critical factor in a product exposed to salt air, direct sunlight, rain, etc. Additionally, VP Extremes have a retainer behind each embedded magnet to prevent any strain on the adhesive and will not allow the magnet to pass through the frame and onto the grille. We have had zero grille magnet issues with VP Extreme.

Importantly, all VP models since that early production have the magnet retainers and have been trouble-free. If you come across a homeowner with an older VP speaker with loose grille magnets, please contact us and we'll gladly take care of them.

Last edited by Ken Manson on May 18, 2016 18:31.
Technical Support for Dana Innovations Brands Sonance, TRUFIG & iPort


Jump to


Protected Feature Before you can reply to a message...
You must first register for a Remote Central user account - it's fast and free! Or, if you already have an account, please login now.

Please read the following: Unsolicited commercial advertisements are absolutely not permitted on this forum. Other private buy & sell messages should be posted to our Marketplace. For information on how to advertise your service or product click here. Remote Central reserves the right to remove or modify any post that is deemed inappropriate.

Hosting Services by ipHouse