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Control4 vs crestron vs Elan g!
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Post 16 made on Tuesday March 8, 2016 at 19:27
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Post 17 made on Tuesday March 8, 2016 at 19:32
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Post 18 made on Wednesday March 9, 2016 at 08:59
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On March 8, 2016 at 18:53, brucewayne said...
I have never worked with élan g. But I was told it programs closer to the way control 4 programs.

That is correct. There are parts of the interface that you can customize as much as you would like, but overall you are designing the system much like C4, Savant, etc. No coding needed.
Post 19 made on Wednesday March 9, 2016 at 13:21
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If you go with Crestron ask if their programmer is in house or if they use a CSP.

Checkout the company/CSP on Crestron's site and see what certifications they have.

If there is no Master Certified programmer DO NOT use that company or CSP for Crestron.

Doing this will avoid most of the bad programmer problems.
Post 20 made on Wednesday March 9, 2016 at 15:10
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On March 9, 2016 at 08:59, KeithDBrown said...
That is correct. There are parts of the interface that you can customize as much as you would like, but overall you are designing the system much like C4, Savant, etc. No coding needed.

There are Event Handlers that you can configure to perform actions that are not "built-in".
Regards, Frederick C. Wilt
Post 21 made on Wednesday March 9, 2016 at 21:31
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On March 9, 2016 at 15:10, fcwilt said...
There are Event Handlers that you can configure to perform actions that are not "built-in".

I mentioned four systems, to which are you referring?
Post 22 made on Thursday March 10, 2016 at 07:51
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On March 9, 2016 at 21:31, KeithDBrown said...
I mentioned four systems, to which are you referring?

Sorry - that was dumb on my part.

Elan g!
Regards, Frederick C. Wilt
Post 23 made on Thursday March 10, 2016 at 09:13
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On March 10, 2016 at 07:51, fcwilt said...
Sorry - that was dumb on my part.

Elan g!

Of course, my home system has a ton of event maps. I still don't think the UI is nearly as flexible as Crestron or RTI, but the programming time is also exponentially shorter.
Post 24 made on Thursday March 10, 2016 at 10:01
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On March 10, 2016 at 09:13, KeithDBrown said...
I still don't think the UI is nearly as flexible as Crestron or RTI

That is most certainly true.

But as a practical matter I don't know how important that is.

My limited experience suggests that most folks want a system that is easy to use (and reliable) - they don't seem terribly concerned about the exact appearance of the user interface.

Of course there are exceptions.

Last edited by fcwilt on March 10, 2016 23:57.
Regards, Frederick C. Wilt
Post 25 made on Thursday March 10, 2016 at 15:32
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On March 10, 2016 at 10:01, fcwilt said...
That is most certainly true.

But as a practical matter I don't know how important that is.

My limited experience suggests that most folks want a system that is easy to use (and reliable) - they dont' seem terribly concerned about the exact appearance of the user interface.

Of course there are exceptions.

Agreed. And for the OP's use, I think Elan is FAR more capable that he needs. As in C4 honestly, I just don't really like the remotes.
Post 26 made on Thursday March 10, 2016 at 15:50
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On March 10, 2016 at 10:01, fcwilt said...
That is most certainly true.

But as a practical matter I don't know how important that is.

My limited experience suggests that most folks want a system that is easy to use (and reliable) - they dont' seem terribly concerned about the exact appearance of the user interface.

Of course there are exceptions.

This has been my argument for a while. Clients want easy to use and attractive. Clients do not care, typically, whether their interface looks custom or unique to them. I would rather have a clean looking interface that is easy to use then have something custom.

From a business standpoint, quick, easy, repeatable. That is what I want.
Post 27 made on Sunday March 13, 2016 at 09:59
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On March 10, 2016 at 15:50, goldenzrule said...
This has been my argument for a while. Clients want easy to use and attractive. Clients do not care, typically, whether their interface looks custom or unique to them. I would rather have a clean looking interface that is easy to use then have something custom.

This is true, and I've said it for many years (over 15). For some reason, it's very difficult to get most salespeople to understand it :-)

However, there are important advantages, other than "custom graphics", to having a customizable interface (such as Crestron's). Being able to change button location, text size, fonts, and even the "flow" of the pages can all be very helpful in making the system easier-to-use.
Post 28 made on Sunday March 13, 2016 at 10:05
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As far as the interface, to most people, the C4 interface for example is custom because they probably have never seen an interface before. They don't know or care that it is the same for every C4 customer out there. I want to say that as of Cedia, there were 200,000 homes with C4 in the US. So odds are that most of these people don't hang out in each other's houses.

It's a matter of our stupid pride, which really doesn't matter to anyone else but us.

Where the fixed interface comes into an issue is when you finish a job and the client says "so how do I listen to music and watch tv at the same time"
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Post 29 made on Sunday March 13, 2016 at 11:06
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On March 13, 2016 at 10:05, Dave in Balto said...
Where the fixed interface comes into an issue is when you finish a job and the client says "so how do I listen to music and watch tv at the same time"

Could you elaborate on what you mean?

Elan g! doesn't have the ability to create a UI from scratch, certain things are unchangeable, such as the "climate" control pages but a user could listen to music and watch TV at the same time.
Regards, Frederick C. Wilt
Post 30 made on Tuesday March 15, 2016 at 18:43
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From a business stand point c4 is by far the best system. But from a Programing/ocd persons point of view crestron or RTI is the best.
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