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Holes to big for speakers
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Post 1 made on Thursday February 4, 2016 at 15:24
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I am working on a project where the electrician prewired and installed speaker brackets for the sound system. The ceiling in two locations is tongue and grove beadboard, and when that was installed, they cut out the holes for the speakers, but they got carried away and cut the holes to big. Now the speaker bezels only barely catch the edge of the hole at certain points around the diameter. what i am needing is basically a big "washer" that extends out past the edge of the speaker maybe 1/4". it cant be very thick because i want the grills to fit as snug as possible and not appear to be floating. All i can think of is a metal piece of thin but inflexible material or something similar in a thin plexi. Does anyone make something like this, or will i have to get it custom cut? Any help or advice is appreciated
Post 2 made on Thursday February 4, 2016 at 15:41
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As far as I'm aware, you'll need to have them custom cut, if you want them to be precise. I wouldn't waste time looking for anything else.




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Post 3 made on Thursday February 4, 2016 at 15:44
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How big are the speakers?
Do they offer 'next size up'?

It will most likely be less expensive to either:
a. get carpenters to fix their screw up
b. get bigger speakers
Post 4 made on Thursday February 4, 2016 at 16:05
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It won't be inexpensive for the carpenters to fix that. Whole sections of t & g will have to be replaced.

Or get bigger speakers.

Could you get a couple of pieces of formica and cut them large enough to hide the imperfections? You'd look for formica to match the speaker flange. It's definitely an art project! (And you'd learn how miserable formica is to work with for such things.)
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Post 5 made on Thursday February 4, 2016 at 16:06
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I am at a job right now where the speaker model (client supplied) changed. The original openings were too large. Sheet metal rings were made to bridge the gap between the new speaker and the old opening.

I wasn't here for the installation so i don't know how the speaker is actually mounted. Seems like there would be no place for the dog ears to grab.

The original speakers were 3-4" wider so these rings are visible but because they are thin sheet metal and painted the ceiling color you wont notice them unless you are an AV guy.
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Post 6 made on Thursday February 4, 2016 at 16:09
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Had a similar situation with one of my contractors and after a back and forth we ended up using lighting ceiling medallions with the interior cut to the speaker size. Not the most elegant of solutions but paint to match the ceiling and it wasn't too bad. Found them at Lowes but they have them several places, just make sure you order the right size.

This is the one we used:
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Post 7 made on Thursday February 4, 2016 at 17:14
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size of hole determines what you do from here....
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Post 8 made on Thursday February 4, 2016 at 17:31
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Would a larger speaker cover work?

[Link: reliablehardware.com]

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Post 9 made on Thursday February 4, 2016 at 18:32
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If it's an option I think that bigger speakers is the cheapest, least time consuming option. Larger grills might work, but the current trend to magnetic attachment will present its own challenges.

Otherwise, have whoever cut the holes install the speakers.
Post 10 made on Thursday February 4, 2016 at 18:42
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On February 4, 2016 at 17:31, King of typos said...
Would a larger speaker cover work?

[Link: reliablehardware.com]

KOT

Nice KOT. I have been looking for covers to fill holes for customers who change mind on speakers but have preinstalled brackets. The mind change is 100% relating to running out of money lol. Its crazy how many people build a house they cannot afford. Makes no sense.
Post 11 made on Thursday February 4, 2016 at 19:34
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On February 4, 2016 at 17:31, King of typos said...
Would a larger speaker cover work?

[Link: reliablehardware.com]

KOT

Just so happens that these are being used at the project i am at also! The client used them to cover up speaker openings until speakers arrived.

They have some depth to them though. Maybe a half inch. The bracket gets screwed to the drywall and the grill fits over it.

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Post 12 made on Thursday February 4, 2016 at 19:44
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Plus size the speaker unless they are willing to fix the ceiling (doubt it). You know damn well if you rig up something to make this work, a pic of your handy work will eventually end up in the Hall of Shame thread over at IP.
Post 13 made on Friday February 5, 2016 at 03:50
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Tap plastics can fabricate plexi / plastic rings or washers for you. Maybe there is one in your town? Or another custom plastic fabricating shop?
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Post 14 made on Friday February 5, 2016 at 05:49
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On February 4, 2016 at 15:24, Atlas Cinema said...
Any help or advice is appreciated

As several people have hinted, any help would include you telling us what size the actual things are. If you're putting up something 6" in diameter, or 10" in diameter, the answer will be different. The light medallion thing works well with tiny speakers.

One really important thing is that almost any kind of extender will look like a hack against tongue and groove wood.

On February 4, 2016 at 16:06, Mac Burks (39) said...
The original speakers were 3-4" wider so these rings are visible but because they are thin sheet metal and painted the ceiling color you wont notice them unless you are an AV guy.

...or if t&g paint is not available! I have some nice checkerboard paint I can sell ya....


On February 4, 2016 at 16:09, BisyB said...
Had a similar situation with one of my contractors and after a back and forth we ended up using lighting ceiling medallions

That came to mind but no dimensions were given so I assumed they'd be bigger than lighting medallions.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 15 made on Friday February 5, 2016 at 10:05
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On February 5, 2016 at 05:49, Ernie Gilman said...
The light medallion thing works well with tiny speakers.

That came to mind but no dimensions were given so I assumed they'd be bigger than lighting medallions.

Well I mean it works, but it wasn't our first choice. The GC refused to redo the ceiling and they were the ones who missed the cuts. We used a 16" medallion and cut the inside opening using a dremmel to fit a 6.5" in-ceiling speaker. So the medallion was just a few inches larger than the speaker. The dimension of the speaker does matter but we've installed ceiling medallions up to 48".

I should add a disclaimer: If the contractor won't repair the ceiling, if you can't install larger speakers or speaker covers, ceiling medallions can work in a jam.

One really important thing is that almost any kind of extender will look like a hack against tongue and groove wood.

This is true. Definitely not ideal.

...or if t&g paint is not available! I have some nice checkerboard paint I can sell ya....

Half of the covered patio jobs we finish with t&g ceilings end up being painted white.
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