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Anyone try Luxul wireless controller kits for "seamless" wifi roaming
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Post 16 made on Wednesday January 27, 2016 at 16:40
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My experience with Luxul is that sometimes it's reliable, sometimes it's not. That's enough for me to stay away.
OP | Post 17 made on Wednesday January 27, 2016 at 17:21
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Well I guess that makes me less confident in using these products. No one is really raving about this Luxul solution.

What would be the simplest 2 or 3 zone package from Ruckus or others? It would be good to know retail pricing, too, to compare.
Post 18 made on Wednesday January 27, 2016 at 18:53
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The thing about networking is it's like religion: You find something that you believe works for you and hold on tight to that and refuse to have anyone change your mind.

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Post 19 made on Wednesday January 27, 2016 at 19:10
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What I do not get about what Luxul did with their controller is they priced the controller way below what others are selling for, but their WAPs are not cheap. 1510 is what, $600 MSRP? I can buy at least 3 UniFi UAP AC Pro WAPS for that.

All I know is that their routers have served us well. Over the last 2 years, we have probably installed 30-40 of them. Other than some issues I created, they have been rock solid. I hope their wireless will be the same. But I will try it at home first. They are supposed to have cloud access and management coming, and the IP controlled PDUs coming soon as well. It might be an alternative to OVRC. :)
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Post 20 made on Wednesday January 27, 2016 at 19:22
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On January 27, 2016 at 17:21, mrtristan said...
What would be the simplest 2 or 3 zone package from Ruckus or others? It would be good to know retail pricing, too, to compare.

If you're talking about a wireless controller and access points only...Pakedge would be 3500 to 5000 retail USD for the NK-1 controller and 3 qty WK series AP's; price depends on which WK series AP you choose.
OP | Post 21 made on Wednesday January 27, 2016 at 21:30
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An IT friend of mine noted that the Luxul doesn't look like it does 5Ghz. The concern I have with that is, a customer's computer geek friend will notice and deem we are installing inferior product when every Staples router out there does 5Ghz.
Post 22 made on Wednesday January 27, 2016 at 22:10
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They have dual band 5g models. 1510, 1410.
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OP | Post 23 made on Thursday January 28, 2016 at 08:37
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Is it possible to have a mix of 2.4G and 5G access points in a controlled system? If not, I would think they would all be set to 2.4G since some of the access points are only single band, such as the outdoor model I'd be interested in too.
Post 24 made on Thursday January 28, 2016 at 20:50
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On January 27, 2016 at 21:30, mrtristan said...
An IT friend of mine noted that the Luxul doesn't look like it does 5Ghz. The concern I have with that is, a customer's computer geek friend will notice and deem we are installing inferior product when every Staples router out there does 5Ghz.

Dealing with this right now.

Worst part is it was pretty much a freebie for a builder.
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Post 25 made on Thursday January 28, 2016 at 20:53
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On January 27, 2016 at 22:10, Audiophiliac said...
They have dual band 5g models. 1510, 1410.

Can confirm the 1510 does 5ghz.

Tip: The controller doesn't automatically add the 5G suffix to the SSID like some other WAPs do.
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Post 26 made on Thursday January 28, 2016 at 22:33
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They have a great webinar available on their site or search YouTube for it that explains all the stuff the controller does and mentions possible future updates. I think one of them was the ability to set the APs to different channels. All of their webinars are pretty informative actually. The VLAN one is awesome if you know nothing about them.
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Post 27 made on Wednesday January 18, 2017 at 21:35
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So can someone explain Same channel APs with no conflict ? Usually if you overlap same channels they will interfere with each other. Is the physical controller the answer ? How ? If I take ubiquity APs and overlap coverage I have to put them on chn 1 6 11

Last edited by deanwysocki on January 18, 2017 21:56.
Post 28 made on Thursday January 19, 2017 at 07:51
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Has anyone tried the new XWR-3100 router. It has a wireless controller built-in to it that can support two APs? We ordered a system to test out.

Definitely plan to pair this with a Digital Loggers Web power switch so that the router and access point can be remotely rebooted.

Thought that this maybe a good solution for smaller houses that can't afford to pay $3,000 for a more powerful system that would be overkill.
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Post 29 made on Thursday January 19, 2017 at 09:07
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On January 19, 2017 at 07:51, davet2020 said...
Has anyone tried the new XWR-3100 router. It has a wireless controller built-in to it that can support two APs? We ordered a system to test out.

Definitely plan to pair this with a Digital Loggers Web power switch so that the router and access point can be remotely rebooted.

Thought that this maybe a good solution for smaller houses that can't afford to pay $3,000 for a more powerful system that would be overkill.

It was weird when I swapped to it.
For the first couple of days webpages would load slow or not at all at times. Then randomly it just all smoothed out and has been working well.
Post 30 made on Thursday January 19, 2017 at 10:33
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On January 18, 2017 at 21:35, deanwysocki said...
So can someone explain Same channel APs with no conflict ? Usually if you overlap same channels they will interfere with each other. Is the physical controller the answer ? How ? If I take ubiquity APs and overlap coverage I have to put them on chn 1 6 11

Systems with true implementations of zero hand-off and single cell are few, with one of the main proponents of this technology, Meru Networks, having been sold off to Fortinet in 2015. In general, the single-channel architecture works by fooling the wireless clients into seeing a single BSSID (not to be confused with SSID) on a single channel from every WAP. Essentially, the wireless client is associated with the wireless controller rather than the WAP itself. The advantage is hand-off is seamless as you physically roam around a facility, however the nature of RF limits the ultimate capability of these systems. RF being a shared, half-duplex spectrum, there is only so much bandwidth available on a single channel, so as you stack more and more clients onto the network things start to crawl. This is why these system never really made much impact in the market, especially as high-bandwidth devices and applications have started to demand more throughput.
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