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| Post 1 made on Tuesday January 12, 2016 at 17:34 |
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Being in Canada, our pricing is really, really high. We use Wattbox but the Candian distributor just raised their prices (again). To the point where it doesn't make sense to keep using them. (fyi, our cost is more than double the U.S.)
Does anyone know of something like them? I know there is Panamax BlueBolt but I really like the rack mounted box style that Wattbox has.
Maybe I have to bite the bullet and keep using them, idk.
Any suggestions would be helpful.
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| Post 2 made on Tuesday January 12, 2016 at 17:54 |
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| Post 3 made on Tuesday January 12, 2016 at 18:39 |
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On January 12, 2016 at 17:34, iform said...
Being in Canada, our pricing is really, really high. We use Wattbox but the Candian distributor just raised their prices (again). To the point where it doesn't make sense to keep using them. (fyi, our cost is more than double the U.S.)
Does anyone know of something like them? I know there is Panamax BlueBolt but I really like the rack mounted box style that Wattbox has.
Maybe I have to bite the bullet and keep using them, idk.
Any suggestions would be helpful. Being the Canadian dollar is below $.70US can't really blame them. I've found all of the others to be more expensive. The bigger problem is we don't buy enough to get the best pricing out of the US manufacturers. When I lived in Europe and distributed product, we would get the same price as any US dealer. Made it hard to be competitive.
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| Post 4 made on Tuesday January 12, 2016 at 18:45 |
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On January 12, 2016 at 17:54, Rob Grabon said...
+1 I love that gizmo.
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| Post 5 made on Tuesday January 12, 2016 at 19:15 |
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We use the DLI piece. For the price, it is great. And C4 has a driver for it to make it easy to do remote reboots, etc. We have had about 3 of them fail though. Not sure why. One was likely lightning related. Our demo unit failed, and one other randomly died. The scripting syntax takes some learning, but I have not had to dive into that with the C4 integration being as easy as it is. Autoping reboots are reliable and have saved us several truckrolls.
Wattbox with OVRC is nice, but much more $$. What I want is a vertical PDU with IP control. DLI used to make one but it has been disco'd. There are a couple options out there from APC and Tripplite. I think SurgeX may have one as well. But they are all $$$. If Snap would make a 48" 16 outlet strip with IP control for under $500, I think it would be a hit. Anyone agree? For racks, I like vertical. Some do not. Different strokes.
We have not used Bluebolt so I cannot comment on it. The Middle Atlantic stuff looks nice, but again, lots of $$, and I have not used it either.
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| Post 6 made on Wednesday January 13, 2016 at 06:51 |
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On January 12, 2016 at 19:15, Audiophiliac said...
We use the DLI piece. For the price, it is great. And C4 has a driver for it to make it easy to do remote reboots, etc. We have had about 3 of them fail though. Not sure why. One was likely lightning related. Our demo unit failed, and one other randomly died. The scripting syntax takes some learning, but I have not had to dive into that with the C4 integration being as easy as it is. Autoping reboots are reliable and have saved us several truckrolls.
Wattbox with OVRC is nice, but much more $$. What I want is a vertical PDU with IP control. DLI used to make one but it has been disco'd. There are a couple options out there from APC and Tripplite. I think SurgeX may have one as well. But they are all $$$. If Snap would make a 48" 16 outlet strip with IP control for under $500, I think it would be a hit. Anyone agree? For racks, I like vertical. Some do not. Different strokes.
We have not used Bluebolt so I cannot comment on it. The Middle Atlantic stuff looks nice, but again, lots of $$, and I have not used it either. Pakedge P20- but it's like 4 or 5 dollar signs.
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| Post 7 made on Wednesday January 13, 2016 at 18:11 |
On January 13, 2016 at 06:51, Don Heany said...
Pakedge P20- but it's like 4 or 5 dollar signs. I have that one. It's just a rebranded unit. I forget who the actual manufacturer was and they sell it cheaper too. Exact same thing.
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| Post 8 made on Wednesday January 13, 2016 at 19:44 |
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Why would you risk anything to do with power related items to save your customer a few bucks vs. liability?
I cant imagine what the legal fees would be if your cheap non-UL listed product caused a fire would be......
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| Post 9 made on Wednesday January 13, 2016 at 23:35 |
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On January 12, 2016 at 19:15, Audiophiliac said...
If Snap would make a 48" 16 outlet strip with IP control for under $500, I think it would be a hit. Anyone agree? For racks, I like vertical. Theres really no reason this should be more than $200 IMO. A fraction of that to make and rest is for engineering.
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| Post 10 made on Thursday January 14, 2016 at 06:47 |
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On January 13, 2016 at 23:35, Ranger Home said...
Theres really no reason this should be more than $200 IMO. A fraction of that to make and rest is for engineering. Need to consider that these guys have to host the back end too- be it Bakpack, Bluebolt, or OVrC.
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| Post 11 made on Thursday January 14, 2016 at 08:07 |
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WTF is up with the DLI website. It is HORRIBLE. Please tell them to stop the cheesy videos.
I was very interested in the line until I watched the POE injector page. Sad.
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| Post 12 made on Thursday January 14, 2016 at 10:27 |
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On January 12, 2016 at 17:34, iform said...
Being in Canada, our pricing is really, really high. We use Wattbox but the Candian distributor just raised their prices (again). To the point where it doesn't make sense to keep using them. (fyi, our cost is more than double the U.S.)
Does anyone know of something like them? I know there is Panamax BlueBolt but I really like the rack mounted box style that Wattbox has.
Maybe I have to bite the bullet and keep using them, idk.
Any suggestions would be helpful. Why not hook up with a US Dealer and buy it from them?
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| Post 13 made on Thursday January 14, 2016 at 13:36 |
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On January 14, 2016 at 08:07, longshot16 said...
WTF is up with the DLI website. It is HORRIBLE. Please tell them to stop the cheesy videos.
I was very interested in the line until I watched the POE injector page. Sad. Apparently you didn't make your way to the 24v PoE Injector video. It's acceptable! [Link: digital-loggers.com]
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| Post 14 made on Thursday January 14, 2016 at 14:15 |
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On January 12, 2016 at 19:15, Audiophiliac said...
We use the DLI piece. For the price, it is great. And C4 has a driver for it to make it easy to do remote reboots, etc. We have had about 3 of them fail though. Not sure why. One was likely lightning related. Our demo unit failed, and one other randomly died. The scripting syntax takes some learning, but I have not had to dive into that with the C4 integration being as easy as it is. Autoping reboots are reliable and have saved us several truckrolls.
Wattbox with OVRC is nice, but much more $$. What I want is a vertical PDU with IP control. DLI used to make one but it has been disco'd. There are a couple options out there from APC and Tripplite. I think SurgeX may have one as well. But they are all $$$. If Snap would make a 48" 16 outlet strip with IP control for under $500, I think it would be a hit. Anyone agree? For racks, I like vertical. Some do not. Different strokes.
We have not used Bluebolt so I cannot comment on it. The Middle Atlantic stuff looks nice, but again, lots of $$, and I have not used it either. On Amazon the critical reviews echo the same: high failure rate. Although I'm concerned about Ubiquiti's failure rate with WAP's I'm curious about their mPower Pro for small condo installs. [Link: ubnt.com]
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| Post 15 made on Thursday January 14, 2016 at 14:21 |
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On January 14, 2016 at 13:36, kwkshift said...
Apparently you didn't make your way to the 24v PoE Injector video. It's acceptable! [Link: digital-loggers.com]Lol that video is ridiculous
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