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Can CCP remotes be programmed in TC?
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Post 1 made on Wednesday December 9, 2015 at 08:28
FP Crazy
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Someone told me last week that CCP remotes (MX 780,890,900,1200, etc.) can be programmed in the TC software (I think it's called Accelerator?).

I was on the phone with URC TS yesterday and they said no.

But this dealer swore he does all the time and claimed that CCP was going to be phased out and all remotes will be programmed in TC.

Tuck, you do a lot of TC. What say you?
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Post 2 made on Wednesday December 9, 2015 at 08:32
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On December 9, 2015 at 08:28, FP Crazy said...
Someone told me last week that CCP remotes (MX 780,890,900,1200, etc.) can be programmed in the TC software (I think it's called Accelerator?).

I was on the phone with URC TS yesterday and they said no.

But this dealer swore he does all the time and claimed that CCP was going to be phased out and all remotes will be programmed in TC.

Tuck, you do a lot of TC. What say you?

not Tuck, but yes you can, but their is a sandbox....mrx-10 RF ant in with the same antenna used with the mrf-350 and mrx-1 or 2...and you can send direct commands from CC series remotes, no true integration with TC, but does allow to integrate with TC, in a way and that is a plus in my book....one caveat no port routing so manage your IR accordingly...set to ID0...if I am incorrect in anyway, someone jump in and bail me out...
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Post 3 made on Wednesday December 9, 2015 at 09:00
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You can send commands from CCP remotes to a TC system. Correct. Of course, there is no two way. I dont see much reason to do this except for maybe the waterproof remote since there is no TC waterproof remote. Best to keep the TC world all TC. Why not? I wouldnt go down the road of mixing them. Another caveat is tracking, it can cause problems using CCP remotes. Yes, there are ways around it but its just asking for headaches. My guess is it becomes a consideration to do this when customers already have CCP and wont spend the money for new remotes. Thats when the sales hat needs put on for sure.

CCP remotes are not going away. I cant state that as fact but as common business sense. URC has a large market worldwide for CCP. Just wouldnt make economic sense to abandon that revenue stream. In addition, THIS IS A GUESS, but i would imagine 70% of tech support is TC lol. CCP non network remotes cant possibly have all the calls a networked system would have, could it?
Post 4 made on Wednesday December 9, 2015 at 09:28
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Maybe I'm missing something. Original question, as I read it, was can ccp remotes be programmed on accelerator?

My answer, based on

1. being certified on tc
2. conversation at cedia with urc

is no, ccp remotes cannot be programmed on tc accelerator software.

Other answers provided are accurate, just not answering what I perceive is the original question
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OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday December 9, 2015 at 09:32
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perhaps I was not clear. Can you program MX 890,900,780, etc along with MRF350 & 260 (which means IR routing and all available RFID settings) in TC? Its not that I want to, but someone claimed he uses TC for standard MX remote systems. He is not even a TC dealer, just a regular URC dealer, primarily selling the 780, 890 & 1200 along with MRF350.

I think he is confused.

Trey, you seem to indicate you can, but you don't get to pick RFID assignments or assign IR routing to an MRF350? This is not a good substitute. IF so, no reason to switch, even if the TC platform is easier to use
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Post 6 made on Wednesday December 9, 2015 at 10:52
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you would be simply allowing RF commands sent from a CC series remote to pass through and be sent out the IR ports on an mrx-10 and no port routing so if you had a bunch of cable boxes for example that command will go out of all ports, so if you have multiple boxes in the job, even on other ports you will end up with an issue...you could fix that but would not be worth it in the end and that would be adding a Xantech IR router, but then you are sending xantech code before every command to manage that and you would be better off just ditching the CC remote and buy a TC remote, which at this point no matter what you should do...just sayin, at least my .02 cents...but the Question and answer in the short is yes it will work within a sandbox...
What part of "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." do you not understand?
Post 7 made on Wednesday December 9, 2015 at 10:54
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On December 9, 2015 at 09:32, FP Crazy said...
Trey, you seem to indicate you can, but you don't get to pick RFID assignments or assign IR routing to an MRF350? This is not a good substitute. IF so, no reason to switch, even if the TC platform is easier to use

you can choose on the base of both base stations what ID you want them to be, and in CC software you can route all 6 on the 350 and 2 on the 260 emitter outputs...and none of that would happen with CC to TC integration.
What part of "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." do you not understand?
Post 8 made on Wednesday December 9, 2015 at 12:23
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Good call, Fred. The two answers since yours seem to only discuss what it might mean for the system, not a YES or NO as to whether you can actually do it.

Or perhaps I don't understand the concept of a sandbox. "In general, a sandbox is an isolated computing environment in which a program or file can be executed without affecting the application in which it runs." So... you might be able to do it on a bench, but don't expect to be able to use the programmed remote with any other URC components. Is that what you guys are saying?
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OP | Post 9 made on Wednesday December 9, 2015 at 16:41
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Clearly the answer is effectively no, so the dealer that told this to me is confused. I asked him point blank several times just to clarify there was no misunderstanding and each time he insisted he has been doing it for several months. I think he is confused and was implying he is using TC remotes or is misinformed. He also said in the same conversation that CCP is being phased out and all programming will reside in TC. He also said since it us wizard based it us much faster than CCP.

Having almost zero experience with TC, I had to ask. I've programmed hundreds of remotes (all models) with CCP, and I think it is a decent program (but I am very familiar with it). I wish the IR DB was cleaner and better organized but I've grown accustomed it.
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Post 10 made on Wednesday December 9, 2015 at 20:37
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On December 9, 2015 at 16:41, FP Crazy said...
Clearly the answer is effectively no, so the dealer that told this to me is confused. I asked him point blank several times just to clarify there was no misunderstanding and each time he insisted he has been doing it for several months. I think he is confused and was implying he is using TC remotes or is misinformed. He also said in the same conversation that CCP is being phased out and all programming will reside in TC. He also said since it us wizard based it us much faster than CCP.

Having almost zero experience with TC, I had to ask. I've programmed hundreds of remotes (all models) with CCP, and I think it is a decent program (but I am very familiar with it). I wish the IR DB was cleaner and better organized but I've grown accustomed it.

He meant to say CCGen2, not CCP.
Post 11 made on Wednesday December 9, 2015 at 20:49
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On December 9, 2015 at 20:37, Lowhz said...
He meant to say CCGen2, not CCP.

And this article from Julie is further indication he meant CCGen2:

[Link: cepro.com]

"ccGEN2 will be phased out and Total Control will be the platform for all URC dealers..."
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