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9 break ins all around my house!!!
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Post 16 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 17:21
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On October 19, 2015 at 09:28, Fins said...
Don't like the size because of the long cylinder.

Well the tried using a shorter cylinder but the 410 shells kept sticking out the far end.

< grin >

The Crimson Trace unit is what makes this a good setup for lots of folks, IMO.

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Post 17 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 17:28
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The Shotgun is the best suggestion here. With kids in the house and neighbors close by, you do NOT want something with penetrating power. A shotgun with buckshot will give plenty of incapacitating power, while not having to worry about ricochet and rounds traveling thru 3 walls. Plus when woken in the middle of the night groggy, you have a much better chance of hitting (or at least winging) your target.

Bean rounds are great to, if you don't want to murder someone. The homeless guy that just broke the back door to get at the fridge, will be much more grateful for the extra thought. Or the teenagers that made a really bad choice to do something stupid, they thought might be cool. Or your daughter's boyfriend you didn't know about, that was sneaking in to see her (another stupid bad choice). Or.... plenty of reasons where lethal force might not be the best "1st" choice.
Post 18 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 18:09
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I'm pretty sure with 9 hits in one area - they wont be back for a while.....but then again criminals are stupid.
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Post 19 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 18:19
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On October 19, 2015 at 18:09, FunHouse Texas said...
I'm pretty sure with 9 hits in one area - they wont be back for a while.....but then again criminals are stupid.

This is a fact. They are stupid.

We just had some girl busted for breaking into cars. Same neighborhood over and over until she was caught.
Post 20 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 19:06
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A .410 birdshot shell will penetrate 3 pieces of 5/8" drywall with 3" space between the boards. That a wall and a half. A shotgun is still going through walls
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Post 21 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 20:57
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On October 19, 2015 at 09:28, Fins said...
I hate the judge. Don't like the size because of the long cylinder. But it is a good choice for defense. I would like to set up some drywall and try different .410 rounds to see how they perform

Why bother? YouTube has plenty of videos and Kikock45 has tested it, too.

OTOH, it's a good reason to blast things, so.....
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Post 22 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 21:04
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On October 19, 2015 at 20:57, highfigh said...
Why bother? YouTube has plenty of videos and Kikock45 has tested it, too.

OTOH, it's a good reason to blast things, so.....

I found them after I posted that and thought about it. Not as fun as my own tests though
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Post 23 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 22:31
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If you want a gun immediately, rifle or shotgun is what is available. Handgun has a waiting period.

As stated previously, train with it. I'm a pretty decent shot, I really have no idea how I'd do under severe stress.

Please remember that when you get the gun out you need to be ready to make a permanent decision.

For what it's worth, my primary home defense weapon is a Keltec KSG, loaded with 14 rounds of 2 3/4" 00 buck, outfitted with a laser mounted fore grip.

Second defense is a Sig 226 with a Veridian laser.

Just in case
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Post 24 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 22:59
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On October 19, 2015 at 22:31, Dave in Balto said...
If you want a gun immediately, rifle or shotgun is what is available. Handgun has a waiting period.

Really? Since when?

Oh wait, you reside in the Communist States of America. ;)

Those of us in the free states can still get a handgun on an impulse buy
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Post 25 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 23:03
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On October 19, 2015 at 22:59, Fins said...
Really? Since when?

Oh wait, you reside in the Communist States of America. ;)

Those of us in the free states can still get a handgun on an impulse buy

Really? Cash and carry for a handgun?
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Post 26 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 23:09
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Just looked, never tried to buy a gun in any other state. Looks like 3 pedal and I live in the worst two states in the country.
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Post 27 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 23:09
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On October 19, 2015 at 23:03, Dave in Balto said...
Really? Cash and carry for a handgun?

If I have a CCW permit already, yes. If not, I need a purchase permit signed by the local sheriff. I can get that purchase permit ahead of time and carry it for up to 5 years in case I find something I want to buy. Our county put purchase permit applications online and I can usually have one in under 4 hours, so can still make a same day purchase.
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Post 28 made on Monday October 19, 2015 at 23:14
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On October 19, 2015 at 23:09, Dave in Balto said...
Just looked, never tried to buy a gun in any other state. Looks like 3 pedal and I live in the worst two states in the country.

You can't buy a handgun in another state. At least not right now. You can buy long guns outside your state of residence. However, from what I have been told (I haven't bothered to look it up yet) a recent court case found this federal law to be unconstitutional, and could change the rules on out of state purchases. But this could get very confusing on transporting a purchase back into a state with stricter laws.

And yes, you are in one of the worst states. If memory serves correctly, MD is responsible for manufacturers shipping new firearms with test fired cartridges to try to create a database like something seen on TV. Unfortunately, the science isn't as good as on CSI
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Post 29 made on Tuesday October 20, 2015 at 07:54
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On October 19, 2015 at 23:03, Dave in Balto said...
Really? Cash and carry for a handgun?

Here in NH I can get whatever I want. I haven't bothered to get my NFA Trust (easy to do) to get class III weapons, but we have more Fully automatic weapons per capita than any other state according to a 2013 report.

But as long as you pass a background check (30 minutes tops), you are good to go.

For what it's worth, my primary home defense weapon is a Keltec KSG, loaded with 14 rounds of 2 3/4" 00 buck, outfitted with a laser mounted fore grip.

Yeah, my KSG is great for home defense. bullpups make great CQB weapons, I love my IWI Tavor, that's my primary.
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Post 30 made on Tuesday October 20, 2015 at 08:46
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You guys need to move to NM -- a firearm friendly state.
Just don't get on the wrong side of cops -- plenty of bullets, little restraint.

Last edited by Mario on October 20, 2015 08:56.
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