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Is anyone testing or using the new Araknis Wap's or routers?
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Post 31 made on Monday April 4, 2016 at 18:06
Cmshapiro
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On April 4, 2016 at 18:03, mrtristan said...
Maybe RTI should acquire them since all other control companies have purchased others recently

I think Snap AV could purchase RTi easier than the other way around.
Post 32 made on Monday April 4, 2016 at 18:53
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On April 4, 2016 at 18:03, mrtristan said...
Maybe RTI should acquire them since all other control companies have purchased others recently

That would be the APEX of all AV mergers.
Post 33 made on Tuesday April 5, 2016 at 10:32
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On April 4, 2016 at 09:16, ichbinbose said...
same here. all we use are tik's. not to mention the tick can do a ton more then the araknis.

We tested the araknis gear against tick, Ruckus and Meraki. At no point did araknis outperform or even match our other product selections.

Absolutely no reason I can see to use araknis IT, with the possible exception of small cheap switches.

It was a recommendation from my home automation person. What would you recommend as the best router on the market, in the under $600 range (little more if need be)? The Araknis has seemed to stabilize things a lot more across my network than the Mikrotik (RB2011UiAS-IN), but I'm still within the return policy time frame, so if there's a better option, I'd prefer to make the switch ASAP, especially where this thing doesn't seem to work with MoCA adapters (which still doesn't make sense to me).
Post 34 made on Tuesday April 5, 2016 at 13:44
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you are using a custom integrator? Have them fix the problem. Thats what they are being paid for? They can call Snap and get it worked out. You, as an end user, at least thats my assumption, will not be able to get support from the manufacturer. Snap would be eager to figure it out.
Post 35 made on Tuesday April 5, 2016 at 14:02
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Yes, I use a remote integrator for Control4 and he's also able to buy from Snap, which is how I got these. I setup everything on my end and he does the programming for me remotely. He plans to call Snap about the issue, but some of the comments on here that tests of the Araknis vs Meraki, Mikrotik, Ruckus, etc are outperforming the Araknis make me want to go a different direction, so fixing the one issue with the MoCA adapter isn't my only concern. I want the best of this price range, and others seem to be better based on some replies recently. Which one is basically what I'm looking for?
Post 36 made on Tuesday April 5, 2016 at 17:00
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I would recommend a Ubiquiti Edgerouter. Not the ERL, the real Edgerouter.
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Post 37 made on Tuesday April 5, 2016 at 17:46
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Well I used to run a mikrotik rb750g at home, which was a little 4 port gigabit router. That little guy ran my house for 3 years and never hiccuped on me for any of my automation, camera and network needs.

Now I've moved to a mikrotik crs125rm, which is a router with a 24 port switch all in one unit. This thing is perfect for most jobs. I usually add a Poe switch for when they are needed. I did add a 24 port Araknis Poe switch to my home to compliment the tik and couldn't be happier.

Of all the routers that I've tested out in my home for over 15 years, the tik's hands down blow everything else out of the water, IMO.
Post 38 made on Tuesday April 5, 2016 at 20:22
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A lot of guys that are heavy into networking/IT stuff, highly recommend the MikroTik stuff. It isn't for the novice as it requires a lot of actual programming. But the stuff is solid.

I would be more than curious why your 'Home Automation' guy is wanting to get away from MikroTik in your install. If he was having problems, it was likely due to programming issues. Which might indicate that level of networking is over his head - this is common for a lot of us A/V guys. But there are people he can contact to sub-out that part of the project and could get things worked out.

As far as the Araknis routers go. They are similar to many other consumer routers as far as setup goes (they are simple, not requiring a lot of network/IT knowledge in particular). You pay a bit more for them due to support, which is what you need right now.
The MoCA should NOT be having an issue, which brings me to the next point =

With what appears to be a lot of 'different' problems you have been dealing with, you NEED someone there 'physically' to look over the installation. Something is going on and you could have some bad connections, some bad components, or a mistake made in the installation of everything.
Who did the actual installation?
Post 39 made on Tuesday April 5, 2016 at 21:31
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Instead of imediatley blaming the router, tell us about your moca setup. What hardware are you using and how is it hooked up? Also, is this your first attempt with moca?
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Post 40 made on Wednesday April 6, 2016 at 08:52
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On April 5, 2016 at 21:31, Fins said...
Instead of imediatley blaming the router, tell us about your moca setup. What hardware are you using and how is it hooked up? Also, is this your first attempt with moca?

I don't have any issues with the router, besides the MoCA adapter. This isn't my first attempt with MoCA. I've had it setup for over 2 years now. I was using the Actiontec ECB2500c, a recommendation by TiVo. When I first installed it into my network that was being run by an Asus router, it immediately worked. Once I got Control4, about 1.5 years ago, my integrator recommended switching the Asus to a Mikrotik and getting 3 Ubiquiti AP's, as the Asus was pretty restrictive and was an all-in-one WiFi router. He programmed the Mikrotik for me, got it setup, and everything worked well, which also included moving the MoCA adapter into that setup with no issue. The only reason I needed the adapter in the first place was because TiVo recommended it because I was using MoCA and getting stuttering or occasional freezing at 1 or 2 of my 4 minis without the adapter. I've never had an issue with MoCA since getting the adapter.

Fast forward to about 3 weeks ago, I decided it was time to upgrade my switches, as streaming from time to time was a little slower than I felt it should be. I had Netgear unmanaged switches, which were pretty cheap. I was looking between SnapAV, Luxul, Pakedge and deciding between managed and unmanaged. A different integrator than the one who did my initial Control4 install, recommended SnapAV unmanaged switches for my setup, and getting their router as well, to setup VLAN's for a few things that didn't necessarily have to speak to Control4. He ordered them and we swapped out the switches first, and there was immediate and noticeable improvement in network performance. Control4 opened and changed things a lot faster, whether it was lights going on from near instant at a button press to basically instant, or whatever it may be. There also was a huge improvement in streaming. At this time, the Mikrotik router was still in place, with now all Araknis switches instead of Netgear, and the Ubiquiti AP's.

About a week ago, we decided to put the Araknis router in place and swap out the Mikrotik, and then we were going to setup the VLAN's he recommended. Everything switched over fine, with the exception of the MoCA adapter. Plug in the Ethernet from the MoCA adapter into the router or main switch, everything shuts down. Unplug it, everything works almost instantly upon removing it from the network. Did the reset of the adapter, same issue. Had an unused ECB2500c, as they came as a pair and I only needed one, tried that, same issue. Saw that they recently came out with an Actiontec ECB6200, got one of those, tried that, same problem. Expected that to be the case, but wanted to upgrade to MoCA 2.0 anyways and figured it was worth a try. Spoke with Actiontec and they said it's definitely an issue with the router. Integrator spoke to SnapAV and they acknowledged it could be on their end are looking into it. Still waiting to hear back, and in the meantime, my MoCA network is pretty weak without an adapter in place.

I can easily put the Mikrotik back in place. As mentioned, it's an RB2011UiAS-IN, so an older version. Is it worth it to get a newer one of their routers? I never really had much of an issue with it, but always like to upgrade things and wouldn't mind doing so if the new ones are significantly better on the hardware side.
Post 41 made on Friday September 23, 2016 at 16:02
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On October 1, 2015 at 12:16, lippavisual said...
Then you will be looking for a system with roaming capabilities. Ruckus with a zone director or Aruba Instant AP's with virtual controller would be great choices.

Why wouldn't the Araknis AP system (presuming mulitiple APs) allow for roaming in a home? My presumption is that any multi-AP system without a controller effectively has a "virtual" controller, hosted by one of the APs, no?

Edit: that's been our experience with the Cisco WAP371 series of APs, which we've used with middleing-to-good success at a handful of client homes. I'm considering ordering a demo system of the Araknis 500/700 ac APs to benchtest, however.

Incidentally, does either the AP web interface, or better yet the OVRC interface, allow one to see with which AP a given client is associated, in or near realtime?

Last edited by netarc on September 23, 2016 16:11.
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