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converting HEX code to pronto HEX
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Post 1 made on Saturday September 19, 2015 at 15:58
BFINN
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I tried using the NEC IR to Pronto Hex converter on URC's control room to convert these codes but get a message that "x' is not an IR command. The codes are 0x0B, 0x4B, 0x23. they for a motorized screen from Cirrus a cannadian company I believe. I have used the URC converter( they got it from Yamaha) before with no problems.

Any help is greatly appreciated, i also posted this in control room,

Barry
Post 2 made on Saturday September 19, 2015 at 16:00
Ernie Gilman
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Give a couple of examples of what you got when you did the conversion.

Why not look up similar programs here on this site in the Original Pronto Files area?
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
OP | Post 3 made on Saturday September 19, 2015 at 16:15
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There are no examples of what I got when I did the conversion, message says" X is not an IR command" if I put ANY other letter in for X it makes a normal pronto hex command. I did a search for any cirrus code sets here and found nada.
Post 4 made on Saturday September 19, 2015 at 16:42
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0x4b means function 4B or function 75 in decimal.

Last edited by dtc on September 19, 2015 17:18.
OP | Post 5 made on Saturday September 19, 2015 at 18:17
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thank you for the response, but why does the hex editor not like the X in the position its in? I know a little about this hex to decimal to pronto stuff but not enough to understand why the converter doesn't like it?
Post 6 made on Saturday September 19, 2015 at 18:23
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The converter does not accept input in the form of "0x0B" this would be entered as "0B", but your code of "0B4B23" would make sense only in a larger context.

Do you have the original IR remote? If so, you could learn the codes.
Post 7 made on Saturday September 19, 2015 at 18:38
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On September 19, 2015 at 18:17, BFINN said...
thank you for the response, but why does the hex editor not like the X in the position its in? I know a little about this hex to decimal to pronto stuff but not enough to understand why the converter doesn't like it?

Hexidecimal numbers are represented by the numbers 0 to 9 and the letters A to F. X is not a legitimate hexadecimal number. The 0x is just a notation that says the follow number is in hexadecimal. Otherwise, a number like 25 could mean either decimal 25 or hexadecimal 25, which is 37 in decimal.

I would be surprised if the program took a number like 0y4b. If it does, what does it do with the 0y? y is also not a legal hexadecimal character.

0x4B just means 4B in hex.

You are going to need more information that just those function codes to generate a fully working Pronto hex code.
OP | Post 8 made on Sunday September 20, 2015 at 11:37
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that's the problem the down command will not learn into any learning remote that I have and I have tried every learning trick I know of ( been working with remotes for 18 yrs or so).
OP | Post 9 made on Sunday September 20, 2015 at 11:47
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You are correct, if I exchange x for 0-9 or a-f it will generate a code, I guess I could make a code for all of them and try each one to see if any work? Or get the manufacturer to give me some correct info.
Post 10 made on Sunday September 20, 2015 at 12:29
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BFINN,

Have you been able to successfully use any of your generated codes?

Contacting the manufacturer's support desk might be your fastest path.
Post 11 made on Sunday September 20, 2015 at 14:06
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On September 20, 2015 at 11:47, BFINN said...
You are correct, if I exchange x for 0-9 or a-f it will generate a code, I guess I could make a code for all of them and try each one to see if any work? Or get the manufacturer to give me some correct info.

The x is not a wildcard. The 0x is not part of the code. Forget it.

You have three function codes in hex, 0B, 4B, 23 which are 11, 75, 19 in decimal. Since your tool takes a-f digits it is expecting hex, try generating 3 commands using 0B and 4B and 23 as function codes. You also need to know the device code and the frequency to get the correct Pronto codes. How are you getting those?

If you cannot learn them, are you sure they are NEC format? Is the remote IR or RF?

Ask the manufacturer if they are NEC formats and ask them to sent you the Pronto Hex.
OP | Post 12 made on Sunday September 20, 2015 at 14:11
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I will try my codes tomorrow and see what happens. I am also going to contact the rep and see if they can be of any help but when I talked to them previosly they said that what the manufacturer gave them ,so I'm not real positive they can help me.
Post 13 made on Sunday September 20, 2015 at 15:27
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The Yamaha converters typically take two hex numbers, device code and function code. For example,

7F 4B means device code 7F and function code 4B.

It looks like you have 3 function codes. What device code are you using?
Post 14 made on Monday September 21, 2015 at 01:32
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On September 20, 2015 at 11:37, BFINN said...
that's the problem the down command will not learn into any learning remote that I have and I have tried every learning trick I know of ( been working with remotes for 18 yrs or so).

It would have been helpful for you to tell us at the start that you have correctly learned commands X, Y, Z and 13 into remotes A, B, C, and 12, but you can't make the last command learn properly. (It's hard to know in advance how to phrase these things and what informaton to supply, but usually every model number of everything involved helps A LOT.)

Anyway, you've learned several commands into several remotes. Did you learn any into a Pronto or an RTI remote? I know that those editors will allow you to view in Pronto hex the codes that you learned. You can take those working codes and analyze them with a program in the original Pronto files (ask in that forum for help), which will make it possible for you to generate the entire list of possible codes for that device. Then you can try them all out.

This is tedious and boring, but many times manufacturers farm out the ENTIRE remote code portion of their product, so nobody at the screen company has a freakin' clue what's going on with the IR commands. Because they do screens, not remote control command sets or equipment. Best of luck.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 15 made on Thursday August 11, 2016 at 14:30
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Sorry for hijacking this thread, but it sounds as if BFINN is having a very similar problem to mine. Perhaps I can benefit from it and he then knows what infos he has to provide further to get it done.

Like I asked in this thread: [Link: remotecentral.com]

There is following info:
Manufacturer Code: 0x4DB2
IR-Code: 0xDC
Scan-Code: 116

Apparently it is a NEC standard protocol. But how to convert this into HEX for Pronto (in my case for Harmony, but Pronto is okay also).

Which converter could make use of the Manufacturer Code? How do I type in the Info there, if there's an appropriate converter for this case?
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