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Need a corner mount for a WAP
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Post 1 made on Wednesday August 12, 2015 at 18:11
Ernie Gilman
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Or for other similar small surface-mount stuff. Thinking it would give me a vertical surface maybe 6 inches high by up to 8 inches wide, with the surface at 45 degrees to each wall. Anything in the ballpark might do.

Thanks in advance.
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Post 2 made on Wednesday August 12, 2015 at 19:23
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[Link: m.homedepot.com]

Used these with all thread and aluminum stock to make a pot rack- should do the trick for what you need.
Post 3 made on Wednesday August 12, 2015 at 19:51
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I'm a bit confused by your request...

You ask for a "Corner Mount" for a WAP, and then say you want a vertical surface of about 6" high by 8" wide. The issue, is that most WAP's are not designed for mounting onto a vertical surface, they are designed for mounting on a horizontal surface. So, do you really want a vertical surface to mount the WAP to? Do you realize that will greatly reduce the coverage area for the WAP?

I would say why not choose a ceiling mount WAP, and use one of the types of mounting brackets used for mounting it in a horizontal orientation, with the mount affixed to the wall. The mounts in the link below do exactly this.

[Link: oberonwireless.com]
OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday August 12, 2015 at 20:18
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Brian,
It sounds like you're saying to just mount it on the wall. Ok. Now, the available wall is the corner. Any ideas?

We're looking and debating about the radiation and sensitivity patterns.

It just occurred to me to say, after looking at images on google, that this is for an inside corner.
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OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday August 12, 2015 at 20:25
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ICU HD-A016. Or better. It's the first thing I've seen that might work.
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Post 6 made on Wednesday August 12, 2015 at 21:17
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Aren't corners bad locations for wireless signals?
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Post 7 made on Wednesday August 12, 2015 at 23:53
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On August 12, 2015 at 20:18, Ernie Gilman said...
Brian,
It sounds like you're saying to just mount it on the wall. Ok. Now, the available wall is the corner. Any ideas?

Did you look at the mounts at the link I gave earlier? The mounts at the top of that page mount to a wall, and then the WAP mounts to a horizontal surface on the mount.

We're looking and debating about the radiation and sensitivity patterns.

I'm not sure who the "We're" are, but if you put a normal ceiling mount WAP an a vertical surface, it will have horrible coverage, unless you were trying to link to devices in the same plane as the mounting surface. Think of the field of good connectivity as being in the same plane as the surface the WAP is mounted to (The surface it is mounted to being the x & y axis), and having about 20' either direction in the z axis.

It just occurred to me to say, after looking at images on google, that this is for an inside corner.

Is the structure mostly wood? mounting it horizontally toward a corner won't hurt much. If the structure is metal or concrete, it will impact signal quality a fair amount to mount it close to a corner, so close to the metal or concrete.

Are you mounting this to a wall, because the ceiling is vaulted? If so, that same link I gave also has mounting options for angling the WAP so that when the mount is attached to a angled vaulted ceiling, you can get the WAP horizontal.

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Post 8 made on Thursday August 13, 2015 at 00:10
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On August 12, 2015 at 20:25, Ernie Gilman said...
ICU HD-A016. Or better. It's the first thing I've seen that might work.

It would be better if you'd help people to help you, by giving a link.

[Link: techbuy.com.au]

Unless you have chosen a WAP that is designed to be wall mounted, you will get horrible coverage with that. If used with a standard ceiling mount WAP, that mount would perform as if you mounted it on the wall. The coverage pattern will be incorrect.

Here's what the transmit/receive pattern of a standard ceiling mount WAP looks like:


Imagine that flattened donut mounted to the A016 mount, and the only good coverage areas will be above or below the WAP, and a plane 45 degrees outside the room you mounted it to. I'm guessing that's not what you were after.
OP | Post 9 made on Thursday August 13, 2015 at 00:57
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On August 13, 2015 at 00:10, bcf1963 said...
It would be better if you'd help people to help you, by giving a link.

Absolutely. I was at work with just a phone, looking over the shoulder of the guy at the computer. All I could do was barely read the model number. I had no link to give.

Guys, I want a corner mount for a WAP. You're right that that's not the best thing. Please, though, tell me if you know of such a product, and let's not try to reengineer the thing. Sometimes you have to do stupid things. So I'm asking for help for a stupid things.

So, that said, anybody have answers?

Brian,
I was at work with just a phone. Your explanation didn't make sense to me, but it does now that I've seen the product. I've already suggested that as an alternative. And thanks for the graphs. That will go some distance toward making this done right.
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Post 10 made on Thursday August 13, 2015 at 11:54
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Ernie,

Can you not just go to a machine shop and have them cut you a piece of 16/18awg aluminum to the size you need, and bend it to a 45 degree angle. they can even cut out a couple holes for you to secure it to the wall and if you have the hole pattern for the WAP they can cut those into it as well. Have them paint it to whatever colour necessary to hide it as much as possible so people don't see it once its installed.
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Post 11 made on Thursday August 13, 2015 at 12:51
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Why in the world would anyone want to corner mount an Italian?






...sorry! 8>)
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Post 12 made on Thursday August 13, 2015 at 14:28
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On August 13, 2015 at 12:51, Mr. Stanley said...
Why in the world would anyone want to corner mount an Italian?

...sorry! 8>)

Why are you on here and not out finding your brother ?!?!?
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OP | Post 13 made on Friday August 14, 2015 at 02:45
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Mr. Stanley,

sad, sad, sad.

Is that funny?

Where does your joke come from?

Guappo (plural: guappi) is a word in Neapolitan language, meaning thug, bully, braggart. While today the word is often used to indicate a member of the Camorra, a Mafia-type organisation in the region of Campania and its capital Naples in Italy, the guapperia (or guapparia; i.e., the guappo culture) predates Camorra and was originally very different.

The word derives from the Spanish guapo, meaning bold, elegant, an ostentatious person, and which eventually derives from the Latin vappa, meaning flat wine or scoundrel. The noun guapparía, which is sometimes also used to indicate the Camorra, means arrogance, domineering, braggart. The verb guappia means to behave like a guappo (Camorrista), to be domineering and derives from the Spanish guapear (to feign courage, to flaunt elegance).

The word wop, a pejorative American slang term for an Italian, probably derives from guappo.

So thanks, Mr. Stanley. You have taken time and attention from your life to introduce into a discussion of digital data devices an Italian word that doesn't mean anything nice about Italians, and that Americans bastardized into a worse meaning. Congratulations on your addition to our discussion.

Funny? Isn't this the kind of crap you're complaining about when people do it to you?

This is a pretty horrible waste of your energy at a time when you claim to be worrying about a missing brother.
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Post 14 made on Friday August 14, 2015 at 07:31
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Just make one. Piece of ABS plastic, a heat gun to heat it so you may bend it and done.


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