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Topic: | Best 120 outlet for USB? This thread has 15 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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Post 1 made on Sunday June 7, 2015 at 10:41 |
Ranger Home Super Member |
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Is there a better one than the Cooper? [Link: amazon.com]Would like to find the fastest one available AND one that doesnt have any type of tamper proof or those ridiculous child resistant crap type plugs. Hate those.
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OP | Post 2 made on Sunday June 7, 2015 at 10:48 |
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Post 3 made on Sunday June 7, 2015 at 11:31 |
Indigo Select Member |
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I though you want an USB device with 120 outlets. Also, never realize 120volt has became standard in AC arena.
We have those Leviton installed in Mud room kids' locker space in our home and several other places though out the house about 4 yrs ago.
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Post 4 made on Sunday June 7, 2015 at 12:28 |
King of typos Loyal Member |
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On June 7, 2015 at 10:48, Ranger Home said...
Anyone use the Leviton? [Link: amazon.com]I have the same one. Bought it from Home Depot a year or so ago. Love the fact that it uses a regular decor plate. Not the one that only belongs on certain USB 120(volt) outlets. I just did a test with my iPad Air 2 and iPhone 6 plus. The iPad was at 64% and 15 minutes later it was at 72%. The iPhone 6 Plus, as you may know can charge from a 2.1amp charger at a faster rate than from a 1.1amp. Was at 83% and ended at 93% after the 15 minutes. Both were plugged into the same USB 120(volt) outlet at the same time. It does not feel warm to the touch. So the generated heat maybe inside or it keeps cooler than other 2.1amp chargers. KOT
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Post 5 made on Sunday June 7, 2015 at 12:47 |
Neurorad Super Member |
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On June 7, 2015 at 10:48, Ranger Home said...
Anyone use the Leviton? [Link: amazon.com]Description says tamper resistant - I think that means it's a strong friction fit for the 120v prongs, but could mean more. I don't think you'll find any that aren't TR.
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Post 6 made on Sunday June 7, 2015 at 13:15 |
ericspencer Active Member |
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The Leviton T5632 is 3.6amps, has some smart charging circuitry and not as deep as the Cooper model, currently I think its the best in the product category
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Post 7 made on Sunday June 7, 2015 at 19:23 |
RandyWalters Long Time Member |
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On June 7, 2015 at 10:41, Ranger Home said...
Is there a better one than the Cooper? Would like to find the fastest one available AND one that doesnt have any type of tamper proof or those ridiculous child resistant crap type plugs. Hate those. The T5632W is Leviton's competitive response last year to the very popular Hubbell USB15X2W, but i still supply more of the Hubbells on commercial projects even though it's a little more expensive. And LAWA has been specifying the Hubbell on the LAX airport expansion project. Both of these units are excellent for home use however. I don't think anyone is making a non-Tamper-Resistant USB Receptacle per the current NEC codes. It's not that they have a strong friction grip on the prongs, they have little doors that block the openings when not in use, and those doors only retract when BOTH of male plug prongs are inserted simultaneously. If a child tries to stick a screwdriver or paperclip etc into one of the openings, the doors stay closed and don't allow it to enter.
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Post 8 made on Sunday June 7, 2015 at 20:00 |
edizzle Loyal Member |
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Hubbell. Fo show.
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Post 9 made on Monday June 8, 2015 at 13:03 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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I thought 120VAC was standard for power outlets pretty much through all of the US. Surely that's so in Texas! On June 7, 2015 at 12:28, King of typos said...
I just did a test with my iPad Air 2 and iPhone 6 plus. The iPad was at 64% and 15 minutes later it was at 72%. The iPhone 6 Plus, as you may know can charge from a 2.1amp charger at a faster rate than from a 1.1amp. Was at 83% and ended at 93% after the 15 minutes. Both were plugged into the same USB 120(volt) outlet at the same time. This may or may not be helpful information as it was not compared to the same portion of a charging cycle using an Apple charger. For instance, the iPad increased 8% in charge in a quarter hour. Without further information as to linearity of the charge, that translates to a full charge from dead in about three hours. The iPhone 6+ increased 10% in 15 minutes, implying 2 1/4 hours to charge from dead. Of course, there's nothing to make us believe that a charge from dead is a linear process, so those figures are of unknown value. It's been well publicized that Apple has built into their charger/phone combinations some proprietary circuitry that turns on fast charging only when an Apple charger is used, so it's necessary to test against an Apple charger to understand if these are fast charge rates. It does not feel warm to the touch. So the generated heat maybe inside or it keeps cooler than other 2.1amp chargers. The heat thrown off in the process of going from 120volts to 5 volts goes somewhere! Is that outlet on an outer wall of your house, and it's 22 degrees outside? Or....
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Post 10 made on Monday June 8, 2015 at 13:11 |
amirm Advanced Member |
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On June 8, 2015 at 13:03, Ernie Gilman said...
The heat thrown off in the process of going from 120volts to 5 volts goes somewhere! Is that outlet on an outer wall of your house, and it's 22 degrees outside? Or.... These are high efficiency switching converters so the heat generated is pretty minimal. Touch a standard USB charger and likely it will also be quite cool. By the way, I read the reviews for the Hubble on Amazon and there are reports of not being able to charge the Samsung S5 phone: [Link: amazon.com]"I bought this so that I could charge my Samsung Galaxy S5 and my partner's iPhone 5s via USB. The iPhone charges OK. The Galaxy S5 does not charge at all from the USB ports on this outlet. It does charge using the same cable and the power adapter in the power outlet. I have tried 2 separate USB cables in each USB port. This is not a suitable for non iPhones in my experience." "Like the title says, it won't charge the galaxy s5. I tried two different usb cables and two micro usb cables." "I can confirm this - do NOT purchase if you have to charge a Galaxy S5."
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Post 11 made on Monday June 8, 2015 at 15:29 |
BlackWire Designs Senior Member |
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I have these on my kitchen island.. They are a little over 3 amps for the usb portion its charge any device ive plugged into [Link: lowes.com]
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Post 12 made on Monday June 8, 2015 at 17:39 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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On June 8, 2015 at 13:11, amirm said...
These are high efficiency switching converters so the heat generated is pretty minimal. Touch a standard USB charger and likely it will also be quite cool. Yet usually above room temperature, so yes, and no. By the way, I read the reviews for the Hubble on Amazon and there are reports of not being able to charge the Samsung S5 phone: [Link: amazon.com]"I bought this so that I could charge my Samsung Galaxy S5 and my partner's iPhone 5s via USB. The iPhone charges OK. No comment as to whether it is as fast as the Apple charger -- this is usually an issue with Apple users. The Galaxy S5 does not charge at all from the USB ports on this outlet. It does charge using the same cable and the power adapter in the power outlet. I have tried 2 separate USB cables in each USB port. I have a USB power supply that won't charge my Galaxy 4, so okay. However, not charging from the power adaptor, but only from this outlet, means the 120VAC part of this is somehow defective, but only for Galaxy S5 phones! That is simply an amazing claim. This is not a suitable for non iPhones in my experience."
"Like the title says, it won't charge the galaxy s5. I tried two different usb cables and two micro usb cables." This sounds strange. The S5 charging cable has, presumably, USB A on one end and USB micro on the other. Micro cables ARE USB cables, so two of each requires some splanation! "I can confirm this - do NOT purchase if you have to charge a Galaxy S5."
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Post 13 made on Monday June 8, 2015 at 18:34 |
radiorhea Super Member |
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On June 8, 2015 at 13:03, Ernie Gilman said...
I thought 120VAC was standard for power outlets pretty much through all of the US. Surely that's so in Texas!
This may or may not be helpful information as it was not compared to the same portion of a charging cycle using an Apple charger.
For instance, the iPad increased 8% in charge in a quarter hour. Without further information as to linearity of the charge, that translates to a full charge from dead in about three hours. The iPhone 6+ increased 10% in 15 minutes, implying 2 1/4 hours to charge from dead.
Of course, there's nothing to make us believe that a charge from dead is a linear process, so those figures are of unknown value.
It's been well publicized that Apple has built into their charger/phone combinations some proprietary circuitry that turns on fast charging only when an Apple charger is used, so it's necessary to test against an Apple charger to understand if these are fast charge rates.
The heat thrown off in the process of going from 120volts to 5 volts goes somewhere! Is that outlet on an outer wall of your house, and it's 22 degrees outside? Or.... What does Texas have to do with it? KOT is not from Texas? What gives Ernie? 8>)
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Post 14 made on Monday June 8, 2015 at 18:44 |
King of typos Loyal Member |
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When comparing the Leviton USB outlet to an Apple iPad charger, 2.1 amp. The Leviton charges just as fast.
Check this page out about the 6 and 6Plus being able to charge faster with an iPad charger. If you were to hook up an older iPhone to the same iPad charger, it'll still only charge as if it was an 1 amp charger. So Apple allowed the 6 and 6Plus to use more amperage during charging.
KOT
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Post 15 made on Monday June 8, 2015 at 21:25 |
edizzle Loyal Member |
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hubbell charges Nexus7, iPhone6, iPad 2, Air, Air2, Note3, Note4, Galaxy S6. As for the S5, that is one phone I actually never got. All the others I actually own and used/use
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