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*SOLVED*Samsung Tv will not support Bluray
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Post 16 made on Friday May 15, 2015 at 13:29
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On May 15, 2015 at 11:07, FunHouse Texas said...
time to move to an Onkyo receiver - solid HDMI performance and reliability...

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OP | Post 17 made on Friday May 15, 2015 at 14:11
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On May 15, 2015 at 11:07, FunHouse Texas said...
time to move to an Onkyo receiver - solid HDMI performance and reliability...

Had to send 2 more Onkyo's off last week. Never again.
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OP | Post 18 made on Friday May 15, 2015 at 14:13
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So we went out today and tried 2 things. The first thing we did was run a 16ft non active Hdmi to tv and it worked. We then tried using the HDMI 1x2 splitter with original active cable. It worked. I am assuming the splitter will not cause any issue with 4k.

So, What have we learned?
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Post 19 made on Friday May 15, 2015 at 14:33
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1. Never assume
2. Onkyo sucks..


what did the splitter fix? clock rate?
is there something inherent to active HDMI cables that messes with this?
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OP | Post 20 made on Friday May 15, 2015 at 16:13
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On May 15, 2015 at 14:33, FunHouse Texas said...
1. Never assume
2. Onkyo sucks..

what did the splitter fix? clock rate?

Timing issue is what snap says
is there something inherent to active HDMI cables that messes with this?

No idea
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Post 21 made on Friday May 15, 2015 at 16:48
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On May 15, 2015 at 14:13, NEZBO said...
I am assuming the splitter will not cause any issue with 4k.

That is a reasonable assumption.

It was a reasonable assumption that the setup you had would work the instant you connected it. "Reasonable assumptions" aren't. It might work with 4K. It might not.
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OP | Post 22 made on Friday May 15, 2015 at 17:47
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On May 15, 2015 at 16:48, Ernie Gilman said...
That is a reasonable assumption.

It was a reasonable assumption that the setup you had would work the instant you connected it. "Reasonable assumptions" aren't. It might work with 4K. It might not.

Assume the position.
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Post 23 made on Friday May 15, 2015 at 20:00
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HDMI Cable too long...
We never run long HDMI runs these days.....never

Too much risk and cost to fix.
Post 24 made on Friday May 15, 2015 at 23:27
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It's clock stretching. I've run into it many times with Sony equipment, especially BDPs. Sony likes to dance to their own drummer.

I think it is all attributed to IC2 bus where Sony (Display, AVR) likes to use their own clock speed while the master (matrix switch of your choice) does not agree.

For a good explanation that I can't put into better words:

Clock stretching is a phenomenon where the I2C slave pulls the SCL line low on the 9th clock of every I2C data transfer (before the ACK stage). The clock is pulled low when the CPU is processing the I2C interrupt to evaluate either the address or process a data received from Master or to prepare the next data when Master is reading from the slave.

The time the clock is pull low depends on the time the CPU takes to process the interrupt and hence is dependent on the CPU speed and not the I2C clock speed.

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Post 25 made on Saturday May 16, 2015 at 10:41
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For someone who has never had the pleasure of fixing a clock stretching problem, (but might today) does the 1x2 splitter go between cable box and avr, or between avr and TV? Or does it matter, as long as one is used?
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OP | Post 26 made on Monday May 18, 2015 at 09:41
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On May 16, 2015 at 10:41, tomciara said...
For someone who has never had the pleasure of fixing a clock stretching problem, (but might today) does the 1x2 splitter go between cable box and avr, or between avr and TV? Or does it matter, as long as one is used?

The splitter was placed on the HDMI output of the AVR. I am not sure if it would have worked behind the bluray into the AVR. We did not try that.
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Post 27 made on Monday May 18, 2015 at 16:06
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Typically, they're installed at the AVR output. This ensures that the signal is regenerated before reaching the TV. Plus, if any other source is finicky when plugged into the avr, you already have something in place to help.
Post 28 made on Tuesday June 23, 2015 at 22:43
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I sold 10 Onkyo units tx-nr405-650's and half of them ended up
with failed hdmi boards. Most of which were out of warranty.
I will never sell another Onkyo product again.

Yamaha, and Pioneer have been solid.
Post 29 made on Wednesday June 24, 2015 at 18:46
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On June 23, 2015 at 22:43, Oone said...
I sold 10 Onkyo units tx-nr405-650's and half of them ended up
with failed hdmi boards. Most of which were out of warranty.
I will never sell another Onkyo product again.

Yamaha, and Pioneer have been solid.

Watch out, I thought Onkyo bought Pioneer's AV line a while back...
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