#ohmyword

Tech support just responded to an email:

No more than 3 Connects wired in loop per Ethernet run.

Can be on multiple switches.

Or stoners?

Tech support told me 6 (or 7?) looped is the max. I would never do that anyway, but still. At least it's consistent info like other manufacturers.... training and 2 tech support guys all giving different info. :)

Not even sure where to start.

Hard wire all units from switch in rack.
Do not loop from one device to another.
If you have a device in another location other than the rack, Use the Sonos Mesh network.
Do not put sonos behind a switch that is not the switch in rack
Use the Sonos Boost to extend mesh network.
Make sure that sonos is on a different channel from your network.
Use the sonos Ip diagnostic tool to see what units are having interference issues

Ernie,

notice I started thread with items discussed not learned.
Then mentioned 2 things learned.

Hope this info helps some people.

I would prefer to home run everything to one switch in the rack, but this is not always practical -- especially in an existing situation. As long as you use compatible switches and keep the radius equal to or below seven, you'll be OK. I use local switches regularly. So far the only time I have been burned is recently with a Luxul switch, but a few hours after a reboot, it didn't switch much of anything -- Sonos present or not.

The Sonos diagnostic is an excellent tool.

Yes, one would like to have WiFi and SonosNet on different channels (1, 6, or 11), but use the diagnostic when evaluating the situation. In cluttered highrise locations sometimes the counter intuitive approach of assigning WiFi and SonosNet to the same channel works best in practice. Each situation is unique.

Keep in mind that the Network Matrix is a static view of the network. Refresh the page to see what happens after a change. If you have a transient issue, you may or may not catch it in the Network Matrix.

Exactly.

I've done a 6 zone system looped just for giggles, did MAC address reservation and turned off all WiFi except for the Playbar that feeds the sub. Works fine.

I've heard never hit 7 on a loop. Then I hear never loop. It makes no sense that you should *never* loop.

So I'll continue to keep doing a mismash of adhering to and sometimes bending all the rules as before.

We used to have problems with having some wired and some wireless, I spent a few days troubleshooting a particularly troublesome install with Sonos support and although it goes against the recommended practice, looping all the Connect AMP's together in the rack solved the problem. I've always preferred to loop in all my Sonos blocks where possible and have never had an issue since. A lot of the issues with Sonos units dropping out seem to be related to the network infrastructure, namely the router. If you are using an ISP supplied router, you'll need to add in a real 3rd party router (I'm partial to Asus for the speed and feature set), and now on every Sonos system we install I set DHCP reservations for all Sonos equipment and I even create a little webpage for my clients so they can go in and reboot a unit easily if it drops out.

You think?


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Cool, Nezbo. Thanks.

Thread Revival:

Ok what is everyone doing now on sonos Install’s?

Not sure if this is right or not but I️ALWAYS put in a Boost on every job. Doesn’t matter if every Sonos is hardwired or not. I️ always put one in.

Is this stupid if all connects are hard wired?

I️ also try not to loop players unless im running out of ports on my Switch. 98% of the time I️ have a 24port switch but sometimes I️ use a 16port so run out of ports fast in an entertainment center.

Most of the time my Boost is in the rack with other components. Is this bad? Should this be placed away from other components to minimize interference? I️ always turn off WiFi for each hardwired device.

I️ also Mac Reserve Everything.

Anything else I’m missing? I️ haven’t had to many issues with sonos but when I️ do it’s always the WiFi Issue.

How is everyone else doing your sonos Install’s?

The setup instructions are very misleading. If all of your players are in the rack and one or more is wired to the network, a BOOST in the rack is simply a waste of power.

Another point to consider is that BOOST is a private access point. Burying an access point in the clutter of a rack is not very effective RF deployment.

Hardwire one Sonos device, and let the rest use Sonosnet.