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HDMI and Ethernet long runs
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Post 1 made on Wednesday March 25, 2015 at 22:38
SRJ
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We are doing a house that has a party barn and pool house. We need to get HDMI and Ethernet to these locations. The pool house is about a 400' run and the party barn is about 600'. There are conduits in place and I assume we will need to run fiber with a transmit and receive breakout box. We are Crestron dealers but their extenders are expensive. Does anyone have any suggestions that may be less expensive. I know you get what you pay for so I am not looking for cheap. The Crestron pair retails for $2200.
Post 2 made on Wednesday March 25, 2015 at 23:28
3PedalMINI
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yup, fiber!

Just Add Power is a no brainer for this
The Bitterness of Poor Quality is Remembered Long after the Sweetness of Price is Forgotten! - Benjamin Franklin
Post 3 made on Wednesday March 25, 2015 at 23:42
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Or stick with Crestron and get reliability. I know they're expensive but Crestron works. I've never had any issue's period with any Crestron HDMI solution.
"Quality isn't expensive, it's Priceless!"
OP | Post 4 made on Thursday March 26, 2015 at 05:42
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I'm not familiar with Just Add Power. I have heard the name a lot but have never worked with the product. I looked on the website and did not see a fiber solution. Am I missing something. Crestron may be my best choice unless anyone else has a better idea.
Post 5 made on Thursday March 26, 2015 at 08:22
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Just about anyone's fiber
Converters for Ethernet are much cheaper. Shouldn't be any problems getting a Tx and add pair under $300.
Post 6 made on Thursday March 26, 2015 at 09:19
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They have a party barn and pool house. Think about how much of an affect the Crestron will have on their lives if you use that. It will be like a fly fart.

That is, if it's reliable. If it's not the best option, use the best. Going cheap and having problems will not make you look good.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 7 made on Thursday March 26, 2015 at 10:20
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Use fiber to get Ethernet out there then add the Just Add Power after it. It's a solid product.
Post 8 made on Thursday March 26, 2015 at 10:29
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+1 on Just Add Power.
Post 9 made on Thursday March 26, 2015 at 15:02
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If you need HDMI and Ethernet && Are a Crestron Dealer && this project is this large

Are you not using DM? If you are using DM use the Fiber output and pull ethernet from the Room box.

It sounds like you would need that equipment anyway so cost shouldn't be as bad
Post 10 made on Thursday March 26, 2015 at 15:04
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On March 26, 2015 at 05:42, SRJ said...
I'm not familiar with Just Add Power. I have heard the name a lot but have never worked with the product. I looked on the website and did not see a fiber solution. Am I missing something. Crestron may be my best choice unless anyone else has a better idea.

Use Fiber to connect the Ethernet Switches between the zones. Then attach the Just Add Power devices to the network switches. If you use the new Luxul Stack switches or the Cisco SG500X switches with 10GB fiber interconnects you can easily support 80 HDMI sources over the fiber backbone (sort of like the big name sports books in Las Vegas using our devices). Give us a call (888-390-1750) and we'll send you a full dealer demo kit including an Ethernet switch to test our Crestron driver to your satisfaction. Very reliable, great pricing.
Ed Qualls - Just Add Power - Proud to advertise on and support Remote Central
Post 11 made on Thursday March 26, 2015 at 20:41
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Either they pay for crestron or you pay to roll a truck its your choice
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Post 12 made on Friday March 27, 2015 at 00:26
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Pull at least a 6 strand cable, then you have at least 3 duplex connections. If you do not have termination equipment, you can hire someone with the correct equipment. New termination methods are cheaper and easier, but the equipment is expensive. Or you can buy a pre-terminated cable - but that can be harder to pull. Ethernet and HDMI over fiber are good on both 62.5 (OM1) and 50 (OM2 & OM3) micron multimode , but 50 can handle higher bandwidth. Be aware of the pull tension limitations - especially if you aren't pulling armored cable. LC connectors are standard on most newer devices (SFP for networks, for example), but SC is also popular.
Post 13 made on Friday March 27, 2015 at 15:44
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If you want it to work, Crestron DM fiber solution.
Post 14 made on Friday March 27, 2015 at 16:00
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If your a Crestron dealer, that solution is the only no brainer here. Unless your looking for a "Science project " solution.
Post 15 made on Friday March 27, 2015 at 17:20
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The Crestron extender is only 100Mbps (same with roombox outputs), so unless you're still putting in 10/100 switches, I question why you'd want to run fiber and then bottleneck the equipment at the far end of it.
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