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| Topic: | For those of you that know..When will HDCP 2.2 be in TV's? This thread has 14 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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| Post 1 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 10:50 |
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I have a client chomping at the bit to get a 4k TV. I know there was some info released at CES but does anyone know when the new sets will have HDMI 2.2, Does marantz have any AVR's with 2.2 now?
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| Post 2 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 11:17 |
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| OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 11:22 |
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Sorry HDCP 2.2
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| Post 4 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 11:31 |
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There are already plenty of displays with HDCP 2.2 support--in fact I think almost every current 4K model supports 2.2 on at least one HDMI port.
I don't think Marantz AVRs support 2.2 yet. Only AVRs I'm aware of that do are Onkyo/Integra.
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| Post 5 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 12:05 |
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Sony ES does. All the ZA-series receivers support it now.
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| Post 6 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 13:04 |
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Yep. Both replies above are on it. AVR manufacturers missed the boat. We will have to wait until the next model rollout from most manufacturers to get 2.2 compliance. This is ok because the Sony server is still the only 4k source available to most people. About the time we see 4k bluray players, discs, and broadcast options from DTV, Dish, and/or cable, we will have the hardware to support it.
The tough thing right now is HDMI matrix options. As far as I know zero are available today with HDCP 2.2. Leaf announced one that would be the first. Not sure it is shipping yet. I do not want to sell a $20k HDMI matrix system only to have to tell the client next year it is obsolete and they need to spend $30k to upgrade it. :) We have a couple big jobs coming up soon that we are going with local sources for the time being because of this. With wiring and plans to expand to a distribution model later, this is the easiest and cheapest way to do it IMHO. And in the long run, might be more reliable. We do not know if HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 will be an improvement or cause more headaches. I know where i would put my money. :)
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| Post 7 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 16:26 |
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On February 4, 2015 at 11:31, Sean@iTank said...
There are already plenty of displays with HDCP 2.2 support--in fact I think almost every current 4K model supports 2.2 on at least one HDMI port.
I don't think this is correct. I know after CEDIA I specifically checked around because Sony was claiming to be the only display manufacturer implementing HDCP 2.2. I found out that LG also has one input on each of their 4K displays but was told by reps that Samsung and Sharp did not. Maybe this has changed with the new models announced at CES?
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| Post 8 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 16:38 |
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On February 4, 2015 at 13:04, Audiophiliac said...
Yep. Both replies above are on it. AVR manufacturers missed the boat. We will have to wait until the next model rollout from most manufacturers to get 2.2 compliance. This is ok because the Sony server is still the only 4k source available to most people. About the time we see 4k bluray players, discs, and broadcast options from DTV, Dish, and/or cable, we will have the hardware to support it.
The tough thing right now is HDMI matrix options. As far as I know zero are available today with HDCP 2.2. Leaf announced one that would be the first. Not sure it is shipping yet. I do not want to sell a $20k HDMI matrix system only to have to tell the client next year it is obsolete and they need to spend $30k to upgrade it. :) We have a couple big jobs coming up soon that we are going with local sources for the time being because of this. With wiring and plans to expand to a distribution model later, this is the easiest and cheapest way to do it IMHO. And in the long run, might be more reliable. We do not know if HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 will be an improvement or cause more headaches. I know where i would put my money. :) Again, Sony ES does this now. STR-ZA3000ES has a 2x2 HDCP 2.2 HDMI functionality. $1699 retail.
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| Post 9 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 17:00 |
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I believe the MHL inputs on (at least some of) the 4K TVs are HDCP 2.2 (sharp and samsung). Receivers.... I guess we'll find out more this Spring/Summer :(
It kinda sucks that that native 4K stuff that is available, Xfinity and Netflix, we are stuck using the built-in Smart features only. Use that optical out, I guess...
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| Post 10 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 17:02 |
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On February 4, 2015 at 16:26, faster48 said...
I don't think this is correct. I know after CEDIA I specifically checked around because Sony was claiming to be the only display manufacturer implementing HDCP 2.2. I found out that LG also has one input on each of their 4K displays but was told by reps that Samsung and Sharp did not. Maybe this has changed with the new models announced at CES? Yep. Nearly all of the new (shipping) models from the major manufacturers carry HDCP 2.2 support. Sony, Samsung, Sharp, Vizio, LG. I'm not going to research and list every model, but it's easy to look up the spec. They are all generally using the same Silicon Image Sil9679 chipset. I'm not sure if there are any models using the newer Sil9777 chipset which provides full-bandwidth (18Gbps) HDMI 2.0 support along with HDCP 2.2.
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| Post 11 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 17:38 |
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On February 4, 2015 at 16:26, faster48 said...
I don't think this is correct. I know after CEDIA I specifically checked around because Sony was claiming to be the only display manufacturer implementing HDCP 2.2. I found out that LG also has one input on each of their 4K displays but was told by reps that Samsung and Sharp did not. Maybe this has changed with the new models announced at CES? I asked at all the display booths at Ces, HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 will be the norm with many already having this.
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| Post 12 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 18:44 |
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Has anyone asked Sony if ARC will work for Netflix 4k streaming? :)
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| Post 13 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 20:27 |
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Here's more than a few tidbits on the receiver side of things... [Link: residentialsystems.com]
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| Post 14 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 20:55 |
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Excellent article. What a mess though. :)
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| Post 15 made on Wednesday February 4, 2015 at 21:17 |
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On February 4, 2015 at 18:44, Audiophiliac said...
Has anyone asked Sony if ARC will work for Netflix 4k streaming? :) ARC does not work reliably as it is, why would it work with 4K now?
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