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Wiring for sound?
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Post 1 made on Sunday September 5, 2004 at 16:09
RubenJ
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I have a USTec panel and I would like to wire my house for sound. I have seen others use cat 5 cable for the wire, I don't think that would be good for the AMP and speakers. I know that I would go from the amp the the block, but I'm not sure if I would go from the block to the volume control or to the speakers. wouldent is over load the amp if all the speakers are on the same line. or would the volume control even the load. sorry if I'm not very clear, But I'm not sure what I'm talking about.

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Post 2 made on Sunday September 5, 2004 at 16:32
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Hire a professional. it will be cheaper in the long run.
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Post 3 made on Sunday September 5, 2004 at 17:41
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That is true. In addition to being cheaper in the long run, a professional will give you options that you probably didn't even know exist. You will end up with a better system and hopefully not have to open up your walls later to run wires.

Good luck!
Post 4 made on Monday September 6, 2004 at 00:24
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On 09/05/04 20:32 ET, oex said...
Hire a professional. it will be cheaper in the
long run.

Where are you located?
Nickster
Post 5 made on Monday September 6, 2004 at 01:03
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He's in Weston, FL, according to his "view profile" link.
Post 6 made on Monday September 6, 2004 at 03:16
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(feeling silly)
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OP | Post 7 made on Saturday September 11, 2004 at 23:27
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How much do think a pro would charge me for the instalation?? I have a four bed room home, not very big (2,000sq).
Ruben
Post 8 made on Sunday September 12, 2004 at 07:49
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approx $65 for each phone and cable jack
$165 to prewire for VC and speakers with cat5 and 16/4
$85 for each ethernet jack
couple hundred to trim the panel.
Prices are approximate but will get you close
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Post 9 made on Sunday September 12, 2004 at 15:59
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it is possible to run audio on cat 5 with systems that use "abus" technology. this can cary the signal from the equiptment location to the keypad control location.from there you still need to run speaker wire to the speakers. the keypad actually takes the low voltage signal and converts it to about 7-12 watts of speaker level audio. Russound makes several different abus systems. it is out of the question to use a conventional amp and use cat 5 as speaker wire. if you were looking to do your own system you should run cat 5 and 16/4 speaker wire to all your volume control locations.this will give you maximum flexibility in the future in the type of systems and controls you can have. if you have an electrician already working for you you can probably get him to run everything for you.
Post 10 made on Sunday September 12, 2004 at 16:08
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1 cat5 and 16/4 should be a MINIMUM. future stuff may need a net connection too. yamaha's musiccast needs 2 cat5, 16/2 for power and a 16/4 to splice speakers if its wired that way

your best bet may be to run 1" carlon pipe to the crawl at each VC too plus a piece of 2" atthe head end
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Post 11 made on Monday September 13, 2004 at 03:01
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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Be sure that each speaker location has a run to a local wall position for a volume control and then a run to the main system location. DO NOT daisy-chain anything, even phone wire any more!
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 12 made on Monday September 13, 2004 at 08:52
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On 09/13/04 07:01 ET, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...
DO NOT| daisy-chain anything, even phone wire any |more!

Sorry, thought that was understood in this day and age. MY BAD!
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OP | Post 13 made on Wednesday December 15, 2004 at 22:59
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Thanks so much guys.
Ruben
Post 14 made on Thursday December 16, 2004 at 23:09
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If you are feeling ambitious, then run 16 gauge speaker wire to each speaker location in each room. Loop the wires first to a suitable volume control location in each of the rooms and run the wires back to where your equipment will be located. Also run two CAT5E wires to each of these same volume control locations in each of the rooms. This will cover all of your basic multiroom sound options (to a large degree). From there you can do more digging and select the equipment you feel best suites your needs. OR,,, you can hire a pro as suggested, and spend your valuable time doing other things. Who knows, maybe you will enjoy the task. It's not rocket science. Good luck
Post 15 made on Friday December 17, 2004 at 02:04
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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On 12/16/04 23:09 ET, teknobeam1 said...
If you are feeling ambitious, then run 16 gauge
speaker wire to each speaker location in each
room. Loop the wires first to a suitable volume
control location in each of the rooms and run
the wires back to where your equipment will be
located.

I am a picky SOB when it comes to describing technical things. For instance, I NEVER talk about running wire from the speaker to the amp, as it keeps my head clear to describe things in the same direction as the flow of the signal.

I say that because the above quote tells him to run wire to each speaker location, but first loop it to a volume control location, then run it back to the equipment. Read it again. It really does.

If he is running it TO the speakers, but going to a volume control first, doesn't that mean he is coming FROM the equipment? Then why would it go back to the equipment after that?

I know what you mean, but maybe the guy whose FIRST POST you are answering actually does exactly what you say! That is the worst example I have ever seen of fuzzy description. If you limited yourself to describing the wiring in the direction that the signal flows, this would not have happened.

Also run two CAT5E wires to each of these
same volume control locations in each of the rooms.
This will cover all of your basic multiroom sound
options (to a large degree). From there you can
do more digging and select the equipment you feel
best suites your needs.

This is totally right. If you can, run these wires to locations where you could put a two-gang opening. You might want a one-gang opening now, but need to do some wall surgery and increase it to two gangs later. If you stick that plate between two studs that are three inches apart, you won't have that option.

OR,,, you can hire a pro
as suggested, and spend your valuable time doing
other things. Who knows, maybe you will enjoy
the task. It's not rocket science. Good luck

The thing about hiring a pro is that the person wiring will not be the one asking how it's done or what the options are, but will be the person who has let you select the option that made the most sense to you. This is very valuable because we are looking ahead to the next things and will have a sense of how to plan for technology that hasn't even happened yet.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw


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