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Topic: | OT ... CNN airliner coverage... This thread has 125 replies. Displaying posts 46 through 60. |
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Post 46 made on Tuesday April 22, 2014 at 13:10 |
Hi-FiGuy Super Member |
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So why doesn't MSoft put the money into educating 70k people that already live here and have families here instead of burdening an already overloaded infrastructure. We don't need more people we need to make use of the ones we already have. Very sad.
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OP | Post 47 made on Tuesday April 22, 2014 at 14:11 |
Mr. Stanley Elite Member |
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On April 22, 2014 at 13:10, Hi-FiGuy said...
So why doesn't MSoft put the money into educating 70k people that already live here and have families here instead of burdening an already overloaded infrastructure.
We don't need more people we need to make use of the ones we already have.
Very sad. Good question, but I think that these guys are so much better educated and willing to accept lower pay and benefits / options. It always bummed me out when I worked near there to see the majority of dudes at lunch around there were not from here. Not to mention the massive $$$ they are spending in India to educate & train. They should get heavily taxed for that, but its the same old story. This is why Boeing has had so many problems with the Dreamliner. Its the first plane that they have outsourced parts from around the world instead of locally. Kind of back-fired on them!
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"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger." Frank Lloyd Wright
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Post 48 made on Tuesday April 22, 2014 at 15:33 |
Ranger Home Super Member |
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On April 22, 2014 at 10:59, Mr. Stanley said...
There were 13 embassy attacks under Bush. 4 under Reagan. The HUH was for what the hell does that have to do with anything lol.
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Post 49 made on Tuesday April 22, 2014 at 15:41 |
Ranger Home Super Member |
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On April 22, 2014 at 02:32, BigPapa said...
That's the issue with your thinking: you think everything is ideological and justify your ideology by noting alternate ideologies.
I don't play that way. And I don't expect you to understand. Your intellect normally allows you to more eloquently express your point of view. Now you've resorted to rhetoric and baseless assumptions. I feel so let done as I've come to admire your ever so articulate responses that are typically point on and often make those that disagree at least think about your verbose ponderings.
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OP | Post 50 made on Tuesday April 22, 2014 at 15:46 |
Mr. Stanley Elite Member |
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On April 22, 2014 at 15:33, Ranger Home said...
The HUH was for what the hell does that have to do with anything lol. You mentioned Benghazi...
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"If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger." Frank Lloyd Wright
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Post 51 made on Tuesday April 22, 2014 at 15:56 |
Ranger Home Super Member |
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On April 22, 2014 at 15:46, Mr. Stanley said...
You mentioned Benghazi... Still not related to Bush. The facts are: Lies were perpetuated during an election cycle to hide the truth. It pretty much worked as so many Americans are just dumb and don't care. But they know who Katie Perry is and how to get free gubment goods. Sad. There's never been a full investigation and NO ONE has ever been held accountable. I don't care if its dem or repub. Doesn't matter. Its NOT about ideology or red or blue. Its about the truth and doing whats right. That's yet to happen. But bring it up and the nutjobs go on about how its just a "faux" news issue and of course race will ALWAYS get thrown into the mix somehow. I get a chuckle at first out of that thought process then just have to grab my face with the palm of my hand. Both sides of government are fugged. Chalk it up to the voters who are too stupid to know or just don't care.
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Post 52 made on Tuesday April 22, 2014 at 18:07 |
FP Crazy Super Member |
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On April 22, 2014 at 15:56, Ranger Home said...
The facts are: Lies were perpetuated during an election cycle to hide the truth. It pretty much worked as so many Americans are just dumb and don't care. But they know who Katie Perry is and how to get free gubment goods. Sad.
There's never been a full investigation and NO ONE has ever been held accountable. I don't care if its dem or repub. Doesn't matter. Its NOT about ideology or red or blue. Its about the truth and doing whats right.
I know you know this but this is like saying "The sky is blue, or grass is green" Hopefully you're not insinuating this is a unique occurrence? Literally, you could make this claim for each election cycle, at least in my lifetime. Some more insidious than others, but Benghazi is certainly no more stinky than many others. It will, however, be Hilary's undoing, should Ms Kankles decide to run. So relax and revel in that thought
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Post 53 made on Tuesday April 22, 2014 at 18:26 |
Ranger Home Super Member |
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FP, and a nice thought it is. (not the kankle part! :)
No, of course, we all know its normal, not unique. Doesn't normally involve death however and such blatant lies and more lies. ALL election cycles have lies but I don't recall one "more stinky" lol.
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Post 54 made on Tuesday April 22, 2014 at 18:47 |
FP Crazy Super Member |
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On April 22, 2014 at 18:26, Ranger Home said...
FP, and a nice thought it is. (not the kankle part! :) Doesn't normally involve death however and such blatant lies and more lies. ALL | election cycles have lies but I don't recall one "more stinky" lol. They all involve death. Perhaps you should look deeper into the Johnson-Nixon transition. They are all stinky. You just want to be incensed about this one, and that's OK but don't think for a moment that the stakes aren't high and some are cleaner than others. Bengazi was certainly no worse than many others long forgotten, or perhaps never known about. If you want to believe it is the stinkiest, I doubt anyone will change your mind.
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Post 55 made on Tuesday April 22, 2014 at 20:20 |
BigPapa Super Member |
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On April 22, 2014 at 15:41, Ranger Home said...
Your intellect normally allows you to more eloquently express your point of view. It doesn't take many words to concisely describe your your worldview. If one mocks Fox or notes the incessant ideological bias, they therefore love MSNBC, then say 'MSNBC LOL.' If one lists the many Faux conspiracies repeated ad nauseum to incite the rubes, they must be MSNBC loving liberals. It's a simplistic reality that aligns with all the false narratives coming from extremely biased media. Your response to calling it extremely biased media? 'Yeah but MSNBC.' Is your issue bias, or your issue that you like your bias aligned with your worldview? Go ahead. Tell the campfire how you're smarter than all the stupid pop star loving Mericans because you pay attention to Ideology Central.
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Post 56 made on Wednesday April 23, 2014 at 09:06 |
Ranger Home Super Member |
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On April 22, 2014 at 20:20, BigPapa said...
It doesn't take many words to concisely describe your your worldview.
If one mocks Fox or notes the incessant ideological bias, they therefore love MSNBC, then say 'MSNBC LOL.'
If one lists the many Faux conspiracies repeated ad nauseum to incite the rubes, they must be MSNBC loving liberals.
It's a simplistic reality that aligns with all the false narratives coming from extremely biased media. Your response to calling it extremely biased media?
'Yeah but MSNBC.'
Is your issue bias, or your issue that you like your bias aligned with your worldview?
Go ahead. Tell the campfire how you're smarter than all the stupid pop star loving Mericans because you pay attention to Ideology Central.
You're actually getting easier to read and predict (as I'm confident you feel the same about me) . It's ironic you bring up "smarter" as that was my thought about you, how you feel about your self. Don't get me wrong, I like you. I admire your intellect. Just be careful on portraying your self above others as that's often how you come across. The prediction reference is in relation to your response of making the assumptions which is your forte. Not a fault, we are all guilty of it. Then you typically end the post with a condescending remark. Therefore, very predictable. What' my issue? Oh I have many, lol. Bias is one of them and YES, I prefer a bias that more appropriately aligns with my views. That said, it doesn't mean I only listen to one bias. Do I make the assumption that if one opposes one bias, they inherently follow another? Not necessarily but possibly. Depends on their posts and comments. Some just don't give a ratzass. So be it. What bothers me more than a bias are those that view their preferred bias as THE answer and 100% the truth and not open to opposing views. NO media outlet has all the answers and is correct 100% all the time. NONE of them. IMO, the liberal outlets are more incorrect than the conservative (what few there are). Drives me crazy those, for example, that think the current administration can do no wrong. That IS crazy. I recognize its all about the spin and catering to the media outlets market. It can actually be quite entertaining, Fox included. The sad part is many that view their outlet of choice may be blinded by the bias, their own ideology and their own lack of willingness to see more than one side. Examples exist in this thread pertaining to Benghazi and the IRS. Yes, I too am guilty of judging quickly and pounce to defend my own bias. More often than not, there are facts to back up my own judgment. I recognize just because someone screams how an outlet is so biased that it doesn't necessarily mean they are the opposing bias camp. I can work on making that more clear. Journalism is in a sad state as revenue based on viewership far outweighs the actual news. Your comment suggesting who only listens to one ideology is off base and quick to judge, your snide comment aside. So your guilty of the exact same thing that your accusing others of. I wont make a comment about how you're not expected to understand as that may give some the wrong image of looking like an elitist.
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Post 57 made on Wednesday April 23, 2014 at 10:03 |
Mac Burks (39) Elite Member |
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On April 22, 2014 at 12:31, Mr. Stanley said...
Last year alone M Soft paid the way and bought over seventy thousand visas from India...
Those could have been American jobs but these guys are better educated and work harder and for less money and benefits. And capitalism rejoiced because squeezing every penny out of everything so a few can have it all is our religion.
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Post 58 made on Wednesday April 23, 2014 at 12:05 |
BigPapa Super Member |
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On April 23, 2014 at 09:06, Ranger Home said...
Your comment suggesting who only listens to one ideology is off base and quick to judge, your snide comment aside. So your guilty of the exact same thing that your accusing others of. I wont make a comment about how you're not expected to understand as that may give some the wrong image of looking like an elitist. I'm sorry you took it as a snide comment but I'm merely stating the obvious. What you consider my 'being above everybody else' is me rejecting your assertion that we are merely one and the same, two sides of a coin, red team blue team: that my mocking the intellectual cesspool of Fox means I hold some other alternate network in high esteem and love Obama. You're essentially describing a bunch of people I don't know or ideas I nor few people on this forum share, of which you reject or speak against. You're making a whole lot of assumptions based on your caricatured view of liberals. I'm making my assumptions based on your rhetoric, nothing more. So when I mock Fox for pushing false narratives and concocted controversies it's because they push false narratives and concocted controversies, which has nothing to do about MSNBC or my thoughts on Obama.
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Post 59 made on Wednesday April 23, 2014 at 13:38 |
Ranger Home Super Member |
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On April 23, 2014 at 12:05, BigPapa said...
that my mocking the intellectual cesspool of Fox means I hold some other alternate network in high esteem and love Obama.
You're making a whole lot of assumptions based on your caricatured view of liberals. I'm making my assumptions based on your rhetoric, nothing more. So when I mock Fox for pushing false narratives and concocted controversies it's because they push false narratives and concocted controversies, which has nothing to do about MSNBC or my thoughts on Obama. I have no idea where you get the idea this is about me thinking you are a liberal or hold Obama in high regard. It IS about the constant "stating as fact" that all Fox stories are false and concoctive. That's a very naļve statement and one that's rooted in your OWN bias. Now, if your stating that SOME of the stories are as you describe, then you may be correct and I concur. The reference should be the same to all other networks as well. One may think if only one bias (fox) is exploited and consistently disputed, they are left to think the disputer may believe the other biased outlets are correct and in agreement with their own ideology. That would be a reasonable assumption. If it is not correct, and it wont be in all occasions, why wouldn't the poster want to make that clear? That is not rhetoric. Nor is my view of liberals over exaggerated or as your thesaurus tell you: caricatured.
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Post 60 made on Wednesday April 23, 2014 at 15:58 |
bcf1963 Super Member |
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On April 22, 2014 at 13:10, Hi-FiGuy said...
So why doesn't MSoft put the money into educating 70k people that already live here and have families here instead of burdening an already overloaded infrastructure.
We don't need more people we need to make use of the ones we already have.
Very sad. I've been watching this thread, as I find the Conservative vs. Liberal rhetoric, and standard talking points a hoot. Note that Microsoft spends quite a bit of money on education. They offer special licensing deals to schools and colleges. They offer computers, and education programs to teach students to use those computers. Then they have various programs that grant money to schools, and provide scholarships. Then you have the Gates Foundation... lots of work there on providing assistance to schools to help students be better prepared, and students assistance in paying for college. I received some scholarship money from Microsoft, and will be forever thankful. As far as educating those we have... My niece and nephew were college age about 5 years ago. My wife and I promised each of them 20K for college. We put some stipulations on it, they had to use it for College tuition, books, housing, meals, computer used for college. They had to maintain a C average. Both started college, and dropped out within the first semester! They are both quite intelligent, but exhibit what I refer to as Nth-Gen Spoiled American Kid syndrome. They expect things, and believe they are owed to them, and want it now! They weren't willing to work hard. College was in their words... "Really hard!" I see this in lots of Americans. They expect the system to provide a job for them, and for it to pay them well. They expect it to be easy. They expect to have nice things, and they expect them now. They don't understand the concept of working hard early, and getting paid over the long term. Sorry, but our economy is now global. If someone isn't willing to work, someone else in the world is. I'd happily hire more US workers, as it can be difficult to get VISA's for foreign workers, but I can't find enough US workers that can do the work. The money is there to educate our kids. Programs are in place to help them afford an education. It isn't always easy... and that is the issue. Too many American's expect success to be served to them on a silver platter. It just doesn't work that way!
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