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Restaurant background music question
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OP | Post 16 made on Monday April 7, 2014 at 21:34
Ernie Gilman
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On April 7, 2014 at 14:07, Lowhz said...
"What are the ASCAP and BMI licensing requirements for playing the FM radio in a restaurant/bar with 60 seats, ~4000 sq ft. space, as background music? Or should my customer go with DMX or Sonos with a hotelradio.fm subscription and avoid licensing problems?"

This is a good attempt that missed.
I did not want to know what the requirements are, so the start of your paragraph is headed in the wrong direction. I just wanted to know if requirements applied generically to use of FM stations. That means your square footage estimate also misstates my question. Furthermore, I did not think it would matter to the question, and it would in fact prejudice the question, to mention one or more particular brands of licensed music.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 17 made on Monday April 7, 2014 at 21:46
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On April 7, 2014 at 20:07, InHomeDemo said...
It is $39 a month for Rockbot with commercial licensing. It is not worth being cheap over it. If a restaurant owner can't afford that, he should shut the doors anyway.

spoken like someone who has no idea what the costs associated with a restaurant are.
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Post 18 made on Tuesday April 8, 2014 at 17:10
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Restaurants... but what about doctors, dentists, and such? LowHz, I need to hear from you first. :)
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Post 19 made on Tuesday April 8, 2014 at 18:54
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On April 8, 2014 at 17:10, tomciara said...
Restaurants... but what about doctors, dentists, and such? LowHz, I need to hear from you first. :)

From the Fairness in Music Licensing Act of 1998

sec. 202 Exemptions

‘‘(i) in the case of an establishment other than
a food service or drinking establishment, either the
establishment in which the communication occurs has
less than 2,000 gross square feet of space (excluding
space used for customer parking and for no other purpose),
or the establishment in which the communication
occurs has 2,000 or more gross square feet of
space (excluding space used for customer parking and
for no other purpose) and—
‘‘(I) if the performance is by audio means only,
the performance is communicated by means of a
total of not more than 6 loudspeakers, of which
not more than 4 loudspeakers are located in any
1 room or adjoining outdoor space; or
‘‘(II) if the performance or display is by audiovisual
means, any visual portion of the performance
or display is communicated by means of a
total of not more than 4 audiovisual devices, of
which not more than 1 audiovisual device is located
in any 1 room, and no such audiovisual device
has a diagonal screen size greater than 55 inches,
and any audio portion of the performance or display
is communicated by means of a total of not
more than 6 loudspeakers, of which not more than
4 loudspeakers are located in any 1 room or adjoining
outdoor space;
Post 20 made on Tuesday April 8, 2014 at 19:05
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On April 7, 2014 at 21:46, Fiasco said...
spoken like someone who has no idea what the costs associated with a restaurant are.

My sister owns several restaurants, I am well aware of the costs. It is a very tough business. If you are running it properly, you should be able to afford the $39. My real point is that it can cost you in the thousands for not paying it. It makes a hell of lot more sense to pay the $39.
Post 21 made on Wednesday April 9, 2014 at 05:01
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On April 8, 2014 at 19:05, InHomeDemo said...
My sister owns several restaurants, I am well aware of the costs. It is a very tough business. If you are running it properly, you should be able to afford the $39. My real point is that it can cost you in the thousands for not paying it. It makes a hell of lot more sense to pay the $39.

It makes more sense for the PRO's antiquated business model to die rather then be kept alive through paid for legislation and continual extension of copyright ad infinutum.
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Post 22 made on Wednesday April 9, 2014 at 16:47
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