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Post 1 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 17:38
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Hoping I can get some help without the usual lambasting from the select few.

I have always programmed Nevo and since their demise have been using Demopad.
Now lots of the codes on here are in ccf format and as I have NEVER used a pronto have no idea how to download a file and convert it to hex so I can change it into a global cache format to use with Demopad.

When I do download a file from the database I get the usual windows message
"windows cannot open this file blah blah blah"

Is there a simple program that can open the file and show me the hex command.

I hope this has been grammatically correct enough for Ernie NOT to give me his usual, on up high, sermon about lack of info etc ;)

cheers

Andrew
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Post 2 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 17:53
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really?

I'm not sure if I'm one of your "select few" or not, but reading that first line really is off putting.

The correct program to open Pronto files would be Prontoedit. Its in the downloads area.

Vert(ALso in the downloads area) can take all kinds of formats and convert them to Hex for ya as well.

You could also ask if anyone has the specific hex codes you need.

Doesnt demopad have an IR database of some sort? Its very rare that a manufacturer would change their codes, especially if we are talking about pronto files that are all 7+ years old at this point.

Many manufactures have their IR codes in Pronto Hex already as well.

Fact of the matter here is that you ARE indeed lacking info. You didnt even mention what hex codes you are looking for. Why go through all the trouble of getting 10+ year old program to run on your PC when its highly likely the codes are available from other channels.
OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 18:14
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Really ?

the reason I didn't mention which hex codes I want is because it is for all general coding, products range from A-Z and as the device command database contains literally hundreds of files, I did not wish to ask every single time I needed to add a device.
As for the off putting then I shall apologise now and just add that I'm from the English side of the pond and we have a different sense of humour and as I have been a keen follower of the forums for the last 9 years , there is a general mocking of the anyone that asks for a very general and low tech question such as this, before a genuine answer to the question arrives.

A
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OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 18:19
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and yes Demopad does have a database but it nowhere near as comprehensive or as regularly updated as the one on here is.
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OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 18:28
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AND despite you being a moderator here, I am willing to take you to task and ask you to reread my post and what I asked for did not lack the information required to answer it.

The next question is how do I extract the hex codes from pronto edit.
I have populated several of the devices I require in the immediate future into a project but cant see where I can "see" the coding to copy.

Or would Vert be a better program to use
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Post 6 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 18:48
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double click on one of the device panels to open it.

then double click on one of the buttons in the panel

then double click where it says Learned inside the button properties.

this will show you the hex code that you can copy/paste.
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OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 18:51
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marvellous :)
thanks Duct Tape.
That was exactly what I was after
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Post 8 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 21:01
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Your thread title is terrible. ~EBG
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Post 9 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 21:12
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I've never used pronto either, have you ever played with Urc or Rti, you can easily learn it into Urc and copy out their codes, you can also copy it out of Rti in their ir library editor.

Good luck,

Cheers from the other side of the pond.
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Post 10 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 21:52
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Ask for help on here or any forum for that matter and deal with what ever crap comes your way. There is alot of help here. Just the way it is on the interweb. What was it you were asking for. Oh ya it was answered above by impact. It even helped me out.
Post 11 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 22:16
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On March 19, 2014 at 21:12, Dave in Balto said...
I've never used pronto either, have you ever played with Urc or Rti, you can easily learn it into Urc and copy out their codes, you can also copy it out of Rti in their ir library editor.

Good luck,

Cheers from the other side of the pond.

Urc doesn't show the hex value of learned codes.
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Post 12 made on Wednesday March 19, 2014 at 23:11
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Be careful at copy and pasting codes out of Pronto edit. If they are out of the pronto database you may run into a string that is in a abbreviated form and not the full Pronto Hex format that has been standardized and used by many platforms. The only thing I use pronto edit for these days is for testing entire codesets using makehex and IRPanels (both third party software designed to work with the Pronto Edit and the old 2000 remotes). I use this method to find codes which no one has or ones that may or may not even exist for a particular device.

I program RTI, Crestron and others and there are FAR easier ways to get IR codes than pulling them out of pronto Edit. I personally use RTI software and an RTI learner to do any of the learning that I require which at this point is fairly rare because I keep very thorough resources at my disposal (like a library of rare books!). You can easily pull the hex codes out of the RTI library manager for use in other mediums. The RTI library manager is by far the best resource to pull codes from since it is both easy to get them in (both learned and cut-pasted) as well as out. You do need to be a dealer to get the software however.


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