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Need to convert HDMI output to component RGB Video, and analog audio
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Post 1 made on Tuesday March 11, 2014 at 22:59
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Is there a converter that will convert an HDMI output on a ROKU to component RGB Video, and analog audio? I need to convert the HDMI out on a ROKU so I can feed it into an older AV receiver that has no HDMI inputs. I am hearing that there can be a copy guard problem with HDMI. Is this true? Thanks for any help you can give me.

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Post 2 made on Tuesday March 11, 2014 at 23:01
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Post 3 made on Wednesday March 12, 2014 at 00:56
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Post 4 made on Wednesday March 12, 2014 at 08:31
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HD Fury will be the only unit that will pass HDCP, so that you can play copy-protected content.
Post 5 made on Wednesday March 12, 2014 at 09:27
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On March 12, 2014 at 08:31, lippavisual said...
HD Fury will be the only unit that will pass HDCP, so that you can play copy-protected content.

Ive never not been able to play something through a simple $35 Conversions Technology (or same rebranded unit from monoprice) piece. Has worked flawlessly for years. Have over a 100 in use. However, I heard they pulled them off the market. Don't know. I used my last one last weak on a bluray a customer added to a component matrix switch. Hope I never need another lol.
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday March 12, 2014 at 09:53
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I am converting video from a ROKU. Do you know if material coming from the ROKU has HDCP copy protection?
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Post 7 made on Wednesday March 12, 2014 at 10:00
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On March 12, 2014 at 09:53, steve kovacs said...
I am converting video from a ROKU. Do you know if material coming from the ROKU has HDCP copy protection?

Which model? If it's one of the older models, it may actually have Component output- you would need to buy a cable that has four conductors on the plug, like the ones used for a digital camera. The pinout won't necessarily match, but Roku may have the cable, too. Last time I bought one from them, it was about $10.
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OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday March 12, 2014 at 10:14
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It is a ROKU 3. It is the very latest model, and it has only one output which is HDMI.
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Post 9 made on Wednesday March 12, 2014 at 14:31
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On March 12, 2014 at 09:27, Ranger Home said...
Ive never not been able to play something through a simple $35 Conversions Technology (or same rebranded unit from monoprice) piece. Has worked flawlessly for years. Have over a 100 in use. However, I heard they pulled them off the market. Don't know. I used my last one last weak on a bluray a customer added to a component matrix switch. Hope I never need another lol.

Trust me, I've done the same thing for years as well. As soon as you get that 1 customer that can't watch something because of the converter not passing HDCP, you will never sell one of those again. In my instance, it was about 11 or 12 customers! Can you say WTF!

HD Fury is the ONLY product that will work 100% of the time to pass HDCP. These guys certainly have a monopoly on the market.
Post 10 made on Wednesday March 12, 2014 at 18:08
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On March 12, 2014 at 14:31, lippavisual said...
Trust me, I've done the same thing for years as well. As soon as you get that 1 customer that can't watch something because of the converter not passing HDCP, you will never sell one of those again. In my instance, it was about 11 or 12 customers! Can you say WTF!

HD Fury is the ONLY product that will work 100% of the time to pass HDCP. These guys certainly have a monopoly on the market.

Agreed! I hope to never have to use one again. Its all HDMI switches now, regrettably but is what it is.
Post 11 made on Wednesday March 12, 2014 at 18:33
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On March 12, 2014 at 09:27, Ranger Home said...
Ive never not been able to play something through a simple $35 Conversions Technology (or same rebranded unit from monoprice) piece. Has worked flawlessly for years. Have over a 100 in use. However, I heard they pulled them off the market. Don't know. I used my last one last weak on a bluray a customer added to a component matrix switch. Hope I never need another lol.

I'm almost positive this is the piece Monoprice branded as their own. We used it in our office on a few occasions and it always worked well.

[Link: amazon.com]

This is Monoprice's component to HDMI converter, which is in the exact same housing as the one above. It just has a Monoprice brand on it.

[Link: amazon.com]

I'm guessing they got in trouble from the HDMI police for selling it, which would explain why they pulled it.

That piece will probably work for you, but I tend to agree with others in that if you want something rock solid, HD Fury is probably your best bet.
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Post 12 made on Wednesday March 12, 2014 at 21:11
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On March 11, 2014 at 22:59, steve kovacs said...
Is there a converter that will convert an HDMI output on a ROKU to component RGB Video, and analog audio? I need to convert the HDMI out on a ROKU so I can feed it into an older AV receiver that has no HDMI inputs. I am hearing that there can be a copy guard problem with HDMI. Is this true? Thanks for any help you can give me.

Steve Kovacs

Seems like it would easier to convert one of those component wires to coax make it an HDMI balun (assuming the TV supports it).

We are running into this near daily with clients getting ATVs and not understanding that their "Awesome" b&K system (ripe with proprietary baluns) means they can't have their precious House of Cards on their new TV.
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Post 13 made on Wednesday March 12, 2014 at 21:38
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I can confirm that the MonoProce one doesn't work. Ran the output of a JAP receiver to the input of a slingbox. I didn't want to make the client have to buy the HDFury, so I figured I would try the MonoPrice one....didn't work. I was then told by JAP that I had to use the HD Fury. Worked perfectly fine with the HD Fury.

I also had an issue where a client had an old Fujitsu 55" Plasma without a HDMI or DVI input, so I had to convert it to Component. I used the MonoPrice one and it would display the Roku screen, and I could cursor through stuff on the Roku. Whenever I would play something, it would go to a purple screen. Popped in an HD Fury and it worked great.

So, unless you want to place russian roulette, I would recommend the HD Fury.
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OP | Post 14 made on Thursday March 13, 2014 at 22:37
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The HD Fury HDMI converter that solves the HDCP problem is expensive. Would this scenario work? What if I run the HDMI signal through an inexpensive HDMI splitter that claims to pass HDCP then run the HDMI output from the HDMI splitter into an inexpensive Conversion Technologies HDMI to component converter, would this solve my HDCP problem? Thanks for the help.
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Post 15 made on Thursday March 13, 2014 at 22:45
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Recently I've seen some non-professional setups where a DirecTV receiver's resolution was set to 1080p... I don't think they have any such content.

Regardless of that, it brings up a subject: you can't feed ANY 1080P through these converting devices. Check to be sure that your output resolution isn't set to 1080P.
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