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DirecTV: How about some actual INSTRUCTIONS for the RC71?
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Post 16 made on Thursday April 3, 2014 at 14:42
edizzle
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does C4 have press and hold logic? you could do that on any button if so. left is left, left is back if held for a second or two
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OP | Post 17 made on Thursday April 3, 2014 at 15:43
Ernie Gilman
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On April 2, 2014 at 22:40, edizzle said...
why don't you put a soft button on the lcd? isn't that what it is there for?

+1000. The total answer. In fact, that's the only reason for LCDs on most remotes!



On April 2, 2014 at 18:48, Audiophiliac said...
Yes I said it wrong. My bad. You understood it fine. We are using a C4 remote upstairs as well, and I CAN map the back button to the blue button, but I know this client would surely ask me why the blue button does not work any longer

I'll say a bit more forcefully now: Tell me what the blue button is used for. I don't remember EVER pushing it. Is there a use for all four buttons?

(actually it would emit both codes, so I would actually just replace the "blue" command with the "back" command in the driver). :)

The smiley implies a joke, but I don't understand -- would it actually emit both codes, one after the other? ??

So for that reason, I removed the Exit command from the Cancel button and replaced it with the Back command.

I use the Exit button quite a bit, but I'm also using an SD out to a second room and "push and hold" on Exit switches the video output to SD, getting rid of the stupid graphic that otherwise seems to come up all by itself.

And when I've looked at INFO, the exit button clears the screen.

Do you have DirecTV? You don't seem to have the same button usage that I do!

My suggestion for DirecTV would be to use the same GUI on all your boxes!

What are they supposed to do if they decide they want a better GUI? Tease us for two years that they're going to have a new GUI that they'll call, for now, "Chicago"?

I understand that since the RC71 will not control HR24 via RF, and the RC6x remotes have the color buttons, that you might as well have functions for those buttons to do. But since you changed it on the Genies, and the buttons that now control what the color buttons used to control exist on the RC6x remotes as well, I think it makes more sense to unify the UI across all devices and have 4 useless buttons on the remote, than to have 2 different methods to do the same thing on different receivers.

Sounds good after reading it twice. But I just looked at the two remotes (using an RC65RX as an example) and I find that the RC71 has a mysterious red button between cursor left and cursor down. I personally don't like combo play/pause buttons, but that's probably a desire to have discretes for everything. And the PREV button could perform the BACK function whenever there's a graphic up.

Those stupid up/down pushy thingies for volume and channel have GOT to go, though.

And where is ACTIVE on the RC71?

Rant over. :)

Yeah, well, for now.

On April 2, 2014 at 23:55, Audiophiliac said...
I can put all kinds of custom buttons on there. It would be less of a headache to leave the DirecTV remote on the coffee table and reach over and press the damn button on it.

This is wiser than you think. I have yet to see ANY remote programmed to operate a DirecTV receiver that:
*has ALL the buttons
*ALL the buttons are available on one surface, i.e. not on two screens of a touchscreen
*can be learned to operate by touch
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Post 18 made on Tuesday September 2, 2014 at 19:09
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After much searching and a tortuous multi-session interaction with DirecTV, I can now off a tried and true path to RC71 programming with a Genie or Genie mini STB.

1. Hold both the mute and enter (NOT the SELECT) button until the STB reports it has set the remote to RF Mode.
2. Enter the menu
3. select settings
4. select remote control
5. select program remote
6. Select the device or setting you want to program into the remote (audio, tv, volume lock)
7. Enter the manufacturer
8. Enter the model (ignore the list until it's either got your model or is empty)
9. Do what ever validation it wants you to do.
10. done!

See? How easy is that?? Only 10 steps (and 5 trips through the directv telephone automation after countless internet searches) and I found the answer!
BTW, don't try searching the DirecTV "help" sites...
OP | Post 19 made on Tuesday September 2, 2014 at 23:12
Ernie Gilman
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I hate to ask you to undo what you've done, but could you try something out?

All previous DirecTV remotes could not be set to control an A/V device until first being set to control a TV. In fact, the On button and Off button at the top right of the older remotes (all models) did not operate until you programmed to run a TV. And it didn't even have to be the TV you have; the remote just needed to be set to run a TV.

The lack of clarity about this fact led me to wonder for several actual years why sometimes I could program the remote to control an amp, and sometimes not.

So... taking your instructions literally, I see no requirement that one programs the remote to control a TV before attempting to program the remote to operate an A/V device. You even list audio before you list TV, but that might have been an oversight resulting from not knowing that the TV had to be programmed first.

Please let us know. And thanks for working this out.
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"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
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