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ATTN LARRY: line conditioning
This thread has 19 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 20.
Post 16 made on Saturday August 7, 2004 at 21:57
Larry Fine
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On 08/07/04 10:48, Thon said...
I've seen all the adds for Monster power conditioning,
but does anybody really need anything more than
a surge supressor? I mean as soon as AC hits
your gear it's rectified, run across a large capacitor
and clamped to 12VDC. Wouldn't that tend to smooth
out any sags or ripples?

Well, to answer that one literally, most 'clamping' regulators can't compensate for sag, beyond the overvoltage from which they derive the desired output voltage. (Huh?)

Simple regulator circuits can't compensate for undervoltage, if they clamp and don't boost. On the other hand, switching power supplies just draw more current as the input voltage drops.

While I'm a protect-the-gear kind of guy, too, there are many who believe that serious voltage regulation, i.e., 'clean power', does translate into cleaner DC and equipment performance.

Supposedly, audio is (fill in the blank with any of a number of comparatives and superlatives) and video is (same here) when the incoming power is run through the wringer.

While I certainly do believe in doing quality electrical work (both power and low-voltage) using quality design and materials, but I'd never spend $150 on a receptacle.

Larry
www.fineelectricco.com
Post 17 made on Saturday August 7, 2004 at 23:21
teknobeam1
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Voltage regualtors that are part of the circuit insid a piece of audio equipment aren't fast enough to deal with low voltage spikes. What can happen is that the regulator will compensate, then wham the voltage source is restored and all of a sudden there is too much current flowing through the circuit
Post 18 made on Sunday August 8, 2004 at 11:03
Thon
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I understand that a 12v zener or equivalent cannot clamp something that is below 12v, but we're stepping down from rectified 120VAC, so your power would have to be really crappy to get this low. Just curious, have any of the clean power companies actually meaured noise levels on the DC side of the voltage regulator. I do believe in selling the best sound and video, but I draw the line at snake oil.
How hard can this be?
Post 19 made on Sunday August 8, 2004 at 23:26
teknobeam1
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lol, I like that "snake oil", and I'm of the same mindset. Trust me, there is no shortage of snake oil in the home AV industry. But seriously, low oltage or fluctuating voltage can really defeat a cheap voltage regulator. It's happened to me more than once.
Post 20 made on Monday August 9, 2004 at 01:37
Mitch57
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So where does this leave the Richard Gray products in this discussion? Over priced garbage? Good investment? There's just as good for less money in other prodcuts? Spend the money, it's worth it?

Inquiry minds want to know?
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